F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

[Knuckles7080-live]

Tbh I dont think they’ll add it for the same reason they won’t add aim-7p-1 or the proper missiles for the f102A but like I said we enough people we could probably make a change happen

[Arya1354-live]

i completely agree. And i will support you through this i want all of my f14s to be competitive at their own br, as a f14 fan we should all work on this until they figure out what to do with it i be happy to see AIM120A on the f14.

[Arya1354-live]

Well i have to go now its pretty late here Goodnight it was good talking to you.

[Knuckles7080-live]

@Arya1354-live

this i want all of my f14s to be competitive at their own br, as a f14 fan we should all work on this until they figure out what to do with it i be happy to see AIM120A on the f14

I do to but personally I thought the f14D was gonna be 13.3 with aim-7p and everything else it had going for it before it was gonna be added but well we(or just me) got spat on in the face and got a butchered version that gajin just want it to be a f14B witch is BS

@Arya1354-live

Well i have to go now its pretty late here Goodnight it was good talking to you.

Goodnight it was good talking to you

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

Northrop Grumman officially marketed the F-14 'Super Tomcat" (F-14D) as being capable of max Mach 2.34 and Mach 1.2 at sea level.

Incoming:

Noting that they clearly make distinctions from the A model to the D model when necessary, but they clearly didn’t do it here.

[Xx-Drift_King-x]

I respect your dedication

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

Thanks.

[Miraz05]

Gaijin should give us the AGM-53A now. With MITL this AGM should help the F-14A with CAS.

[Xx-Drift_King-x]

The 7M is a bit silly, though this might extend beyond as just a Sparrow issue. The F-14s are kinda the only jets I play these days so I’m not really sure

[ron_23]

that sparrow got chaffed

[Zannafrancy]

@Knuckles7080-live

the aim54 bleeds speed like crazy even before the buff and if I’m not wrong the buff focuses more on maneuverability not speed

Not really, the only real buff is the all aspect seeker, the maneuverability is worse in most cases and only really better against high altitude targets

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

If I post another bugreport on an issue with more substantive evidence that completely supersedes my previous reports, will developers give it a fair chance/will I be punished for reporting the same topic? @Smin1080p_WT

Links to previous reports:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/gS91L9RNU1F8
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Oq53GpCxZsRJ?comment=H82UniIfT331kefArYZHGKF9
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jz750xrun9ir

[Knuckles7080-live]

Would be cool if Gajin gave us a NF-14 with AAAM project/vtas,aim-95A project

[Xx-Drift_King-x]

With how little in regards to the Tomcat they seem to care, I would be surprised if this were to even be considered.

Though, this kind of Tomcat featuring these types of weaponry would be cool, would it be enough to justify an addition, with the means of being a testbed aircraft?

[Knuckles7080-live]

@Xx-Drift_King-x@psn

with the means of being a testbed aircraft?

A technical moderator made a suggestion for the NF-14A w/amraams so yes testbed aircraft can be in game

[Xx-Drift_King-x]

What weight does that hold here, does it mean it’s more likely to be pushed? I don’t mean to be cynical, I’m only vaguely familiar with how things work on this forum

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

Lets do this one more time.

F-14D underperforming in speed bugreport: Community Bug Reporting System

[Nick_Cloud]

@Nick_Cloud

Eh… i don’t know i think i found something about AIM-7P-Block 2 and F-14D.

Spoiler

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=600

It states this

the receiver was also made reprogrammable,
providing a 16-fold memory expansion, twice the
processor speed, and a capability to receive mid-course
uplink information in the same formats used by the
AIM-54 Phoenix, AIM-120 AMRAAM, and RIM-66/67
Standard. The technology of the AIM-7P would also be
incorporated in the RIM-7 SeaSparrow.
No procurement split can be determined between
AIM-7P and RIM-7P missiles, since production is
focusing on guidance and control sections in which the
mission does not play a determining role. The Navy has
contracted for 1,232 AIM/RIM-7P missiles, although
most are expected to fulfill the surface-to-air mission
requirement (RIM-7P).

In other words it was fully compatible with the 54s IOG pipeline…
And that’s a 2006 paper, in other words when the Tomcat phased out.
I’m always talking for 14D. The 14A/Bs used the backwards compatibility modes…
APG-71 is full digital so it can cooperate fully with AIM-7P-2. The AWG-9 ones use it as 7M-H, because it’s analogue and can’t fully co-operate with the digital MIL-STD-1553B Digital Multiplex Data Bus.
Same thing happens with the 54C+ .F-14D uses it fully. The other 2 can use it as C.
Also, 7P-2 had FSK …it didn’t need any software like the AMRAAM OFP.
They just programmed the missile to listen to the commands the plane’s system gave. It didn’t need any “dictionary” and the translation made by the plane’s system…

I quote it so to not write it twice.
Does this help in anything with AIM-7P Block 2?

[luque13]

@ron_23

and then that is supposed to prove how great the Aim-54 is even compared to more modern missiles?

or when used against more modern avionic suites

The 54 should loft and loft to 50-60kft it then falls on the target travelling in the region of mach 1.5ish.

Making it incredibly dangerous, now like an R-37 you are going to have to defend preemptively. Modern avionics MAWS and protection systems make these missiles less of a threat but anything coming at you from above at mach 2 is not something you can ignore.

[Zannafrancy]

@luque13

Making it incredibly dangerous, now like an R-37 you are going to have to defend preemptively. Modern avionics MAWS and protection systems make these missiles less of a threat but anything coming at you from above at mach 2 is not something you can ignore.

btw, every video of r-37s shows them climbing to space much like you’d expect the aim54 to do, i wonder if theyre going to screw up the r-37 like the aim-54