F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Can’t the F-14 just out rate it? It’ll last a whole lot longer in a fight or battle, because of the shear CM count, so It’ll just notch all of the missiles without even being to running out, and it isn’t an ADF.

Not all the su30mk2/su30kk,f2a(yes ik it dosent have a fox3 but its a aesa radar) have good radars,jf17, j11 and the f16 have mid to good radar s and some other planes have hms witch is a plus

In a one circle the f14 has a chance but in a 2 circle it dosent and it can really only out rate stuff with it wings out and flaps out and it really only preforms good in low altitude also it’s bol cm are mid at best especially with it after burners being hot as the sun and it rcs being huge and it being a br surrounded by irccm and better fox3 and notch in this aircraft can be a death sentence as it big heavy and has slow acceleration to things like su27(if the su27 dosent do falling leaf type sh** or cash in all their energy),f16,f15,mig29 they would just be behind you reeling you in or get close enough and some other aircraft where no you can’t just speed away unless it’s something like a av8 all aircraft at this br have decent to good acceleration just like the f14B or in some cases better

Missile load out/radar doesn’t always determine br as the su30mk2/su30mkk prove this and the dual aim120 rails for the f14D it just something some of us are coping to get especially since it would just total up to 10 missiles just like the su30mk2/su30mkk but for balancing reasons I wouldn’t be surprised if the f14D doesn’t get dual aim120 racks. You can’t really compare a f15C fm to the F14B let alone a f14D it already know the D variant dosent really improve in FM other then its Digital Flight Control System (DFCS witch isn’t fly by wire for tomcats) The D model introduced a digital flight control system that significantly improved handling especially at high angles of attack or during air combat maneuvering but it still uses the same engines while also weighing a lil more. for you argument it would’ve been better to use the f15A but even then the f15A has better acceleration and better energy retention compared to the f14B

As for the radars artificial nerf it would most likely be just like the awg9 artificial nerf like the acm, and slaving tcs/irst(yes ik all aircraft with this type of function dosent have them) but even then the apg71 probably will still better to use than awg9 since it won’t be limited to head on. Also like the aim54c I think you won’t really reach Mach 5.0 do to of that most bvr engagement happen between 35-50 miles it’s pretty hard to get a full red circle lock farther then 50 miles and people will maneuver witch would just make it harder for the aim54c+ to reach those speeds as the aim54 in game struggles to even reach Mach 4.3 even while going as fast as you can

Most do, the PIRATE IIR sensor on the relevant Typhoons and and OEPS, & OLS systems on Russian fighters can support missiles.

The AXX-1 TCS on the other hand got forgotten, and it’s “not a bug”.

The F-14B should be impacted by this change to IRST/EOTS

"Presently the F-14B doesn’t use its EO tracker as part of its STT automation. As such isn’t subject to the fix requested.

The fix for the aircraft mentioned in this report is only to resolve the automation rapidly changing between radar and IR/EO while in STT. It isn’t to grant full launch capabilities in those modes and doesn’t allow for it when manually switching to IR/EO modes."

I’m not too hopeful that the AAS-42 of the F-14D would be properly implemented, considering that neither the, AAA-4(F-8E / F-106), ASX-1 (F-4E 2000), or AXX-1(F-14B) have been touched since IRSTs were revised. let alone gotten add on systems like the ALR-23 for the F-14A’s in game.

Sheesh I didn’t know irst systems got revised

f14 rates better than the f-16 but the f-16 can just pull in and kill the f-14 early on as its better at retaining speed in one circle/when pulling hard for position

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AN/ALR-45 RWR - Incorrect tracking warning sound tones

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What the hell he is talking about?

I know all RWRs share the same sound, but why do the tracking sounds differ? Either way, they should emit the same sound as the ALR-67 or modern RWRs.

Peak comedy

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They just choose to be lazy until a bugreport gets sponsored by a youtuber or it’s a vehicle they like. Unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Anyway, I don’t rework this bug report.

It is too lazy for me and if the technical mod doesn’t understand the context, there’s absolutely no reason to post a bug report.

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becasue all RWRs have the same sounds ingame

launch warnings have alternating pitch while tracks are a constant tone

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Depends of aircrafts.

Most modern aircrafts are not.

You can hear tracking sounds in first sec of this clip, which is NOT constant tone.

yes they are in WT

Explain what is those sound then.

First one is F-14B, second one is F-14A which has ALR-45.

I mean ALR-45s tracking sounds should have same sounds with other RWR ones.

first off the SU30MKK uses a bad radar the N001VEP or whatever they call it on first SU27 is not a very good radar of the br the F/A-18A has a far better radar at lower br but the F14 has more then enough flight performance to not be 13.3 with 8 AIM-120s and SU30 and J11 should already be moved up in br anyways in no way would a F14D be same br as F16A with more missiles its more equal to F15C then it is to F16

the SU27s radar is just hard carried by good missiles its radar itself is not that good

SU30 is also heavier and has less thrust then the SU27SM by a large margin

a F14D with 8-10 AIM-120s would be more comparable to a F15C then most people think as the F14D can climb well and dogfight well F15C is a brick as a dogfighter the F15A being a better comaparison is crazy cause thats a 13.0 1 trick pony that can only dogfight

quite literally does of course FM is factord into this but F14 FM is not lacking majorly enough to warrant 13.3

if missiles didnt matter mirage 2000 5F wouldnt be 14.0

mind you the 13.0 su27 dont share same radar as the SU30MKK making it worse then SU27SM at 13.7

the F2A is only at 13.0 cause it has AIM-7Ms which are the worst missle for that BR

it will be nerfed if its at that tier especilly with all those missiles it will have worse notch angles likely then anything at the BR just like AWG-9
it will be worse then the F16s F18 and F15s just like the awg-9

F16A only is at 13.3 cause it has a weak engine compared to the C model and a weaker radar

there fore the F14D at 13.3 would either immedietaly be raised to 13.7 or be artficially nerfed

I pretty sure it’s a decently good radar provides faster processing, improved track while scan capabilities and the ability to engage more targets as it also has hmd witch helps a lot on off bore shots with r77/r73/maybe even the r27er and tws witch my not be as good as other counterparts but its tws is still decent enough to find and engage targets the only thing when it comes to playing the su30mk2 is that it really doesn’t shine to much in bvr engagements not to mention it’s the same radar that the su27sm uses also it uses the same engines as the su27 while weighing a lil more F-14D won’t have a hmd and just relies on acm and tws witch will be better on f14D

Doesn’t have to get dual AMRAAM rack like I said it’s something some of us are coping to get. Also su30mkk’s/j11’s have not yet been moved in in br only the j11 placements is being moved but it doesn’t determine br only rank. F14 and F-16 behave and where made differently the f14 was made for interceptor but they also wanted to give it dogfighting capability’s to be able to take out its targets escorts and the f16 was made to be made a light agile multi role aircraft witch is why it dosent carry a lot of missiles so I don’t think you should be comparing two aircraft that where made for different roles and yes you right it is more equal to the f15C misp 2 in a decently good FM and it’s radar and potential it’s load out being 2 aim9m and potentially 6 aim120 I do see the f14D being at 13.3-13.7 why same reason like su30mkk it both aircraft uses the last engines from the last models like f14B/su27 also while weighing a lil more both get radars from a br higher su30mkk uses the same one from su27sm and the f14D uses a comparable one that the f15E uses without hmd

F15C is only a brick if you use the conformal fuel tanks other than that it a decently good dog fighter. F15A is a better comparison just because it has aim7m and aim9m doesn’t make it not comparable to the f14B bc it to carries aim7m and aim9L and aim54 but the aim54c isn’t all that great it’s decent at best without them what you got a f14B with aim7m and 9L and then the f15A has better energy retention while also a thrust to weight ratio and acceleration

Don’t know to much about French jets but ik those mica em are deadly

Ummm okay I’d hope a new jet is better than the old jet in radar

I doubt they would nerf it that hard and I hope a apg71 thats comparable to the f15E apg70 radar isn’t worse than f18,f16,f15 radar. 6 AMRAAMs and 2 aim9m isn’t op for 13.3 as like I said the su30mkk has 6 r77 and 4 r73

I could care less if it’s at 13.7 so long as it has aim120 and aim9m

F14 at 13.7 will be facing rafales and SU30SM2s until 15.0 is added which isnt gonna be a long time

the f14b is agonizing as is at it’s br, an f14d with amraams would very much at least have the opportunity to fight back a bit compared to now with 7mikes…

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