F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

What else could they mean?

“Twice the previous range” is pretty clear

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dosent mean that you can lock targets at that range or fire missiles at them

it is also probably in hprf and against large targets

and even then at those ranges the curve of the earth strats to become problematic as well

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Exactly… similarly with every radar.
The maximum potential range.

Bring the manuals that aren’t classified! by Snail

not like anything over 100km matters for warthunder anyways

Uh that’s not a problem at all. That’s what I expect.

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so you have no info about the important stuff

the detection and weapons grade track of a fighter sized target

?? It’s like 205km for the old AWG-9. We’ve been known this.

Also, it’s important to me. I think it might be important to others who like the Tomcats too. It’s just news to confirm our suspicions.

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A quick check shows the system can detect targets up to about 700 km, but apparently the antenna design limits actual detection range to less than that distance.

Specifically, a little over 200 km

Probably needs to be the awacs model

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i read about this. two F-14s could sync the output to double the detection. this was the ability given by the new radar set. this increased detection range

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The real Phoenix missile has a range of about 145km, and in War Thunder it barely flies 50km at best, so even a detection range of 100km is more than enough

I wonder if Phoenix’s buff is coming…

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Is that ai generated lol

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Unfortunately no. It was a real proposal…

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I spit out my coffee when I first saw this image too.

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It’s the Grumman XEF-14Z. A proposed AWACS version of the F-14. It was only ever a proposal and a model, for obvious reasons.
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Although supposedly F-14’s were used for radar surveillance when in Iranian service so it’s not far off reality, apart from the whole radome strapped to the top.

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Where did 370km come from btw?
Was looking at the outsiders view for the awg9 and that only lists 115 nautical miles which is not close to 370km

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That’s precisely 185km, which is the maximum range the F-14 can hardlock aircraft. Which would be the only relevant range for that doc. 370km and so on is detection only.

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Max lock range doesn’t really “exist”. What you refer is the maximum ranging capability(max instrumented) as it would depend on the FMR limits of the radar(max ranging capability is also NOT the biggest range scale).

That max range is not known till manuals get available but I’d guess its beyond 100N.M as detection alone for a target in PD RWS is around 100N.M. To give you an idea, on the long range phoenix shot, the awg9 managed to acquire in TWS the RCS augmented drone with jamming at 132 N.M and fired at max range(of the phoenix battery, 160s of flight). This alone tells us the FMR goes beyond 100 N.M you mention.

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some IRL examples of max FM ranging capability and max scope scale.

Apg-59(F4J in PD) - 100 N.M max ranging and 200N.M max scale
Apg-63(early?- 80s F15) - 86 N.M and 160N.M max scale
Apg-65(F18 - 2002 year) - 100 N.M and 160 N.M max scale
You can detect big RCS targets at longer range if you are in velocity search

Then there are some where the max scape is the max ranging, such as the Mig29(100km) and the N001(150km). Ingame max lock range(green shaded part of the scope), independent of target size, is 60km and 80km respectively, even if there’s a death star sized object at 100km. Same thing for the F15, 90km max lock range despite seeing target farther up the scale

This image will clear the difference.
2025-12-02

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You are reading what you want to read, and not what it says.

“Multiple target tracking with twice the previous range” indicates reliable TWS tracking of multiple targets at “X” practical range times 2.

That means if they had a tested practical range of 50 it would increase to 100.

Not “max radar display range times 2”

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