F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

F-14B doesn’t?

9ls are still usable, at least it’s not the 14a that’s stuck with 9ps at the same br. I do agree 14b should get 9ms although I think they’re saving them for the d

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Are the F-16A ADFs getting 9M when they move up due to the new AMRAAMS? Because they’ll be up there without IRCCM too.

JA37DI and JA37DI F21

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just 120as

Doesn’t matter when they have the best ARH in the game. Compared to the F-14B having the worst.

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I agree that they’re probably saving them for the D, but I don’t agree with them leaving the rest of the B’s kit 12.3 worthy since they won’t fix the phoenix.

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Does anyone know, did the D ever get 9X or was it retired too early?

retired 2006 so find out when X came out and bing botta boom

theres a source out there that says 9x is usable by the 14d, i bet @ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn has it

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hey mikey i found some intresting info
https://weaponsystems.net/system/219-AIM-54+Phoenix

This is all old and outdated information, if you can find it on google it probably has been seen before.
Then of course the stuff that hasn’t generally isn’t permissible for sharing on the forum or is a fresh FOIA, etc.

Yes there are pilot claims and a few mentions in asorted documents, but it would only by the baseline version so while a Significant step up from the -9M, it’s nowhere near the level of other 5th gen IR missiles due to maintaining the same form factor, where most others move to an 8 or 10" airframe. so doesn’t have the internal volume to keep pace with the others.

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Pilots say it used them and we have a few docs saying it was compatible.

First one from Raytheon before Aim-9X service:
Screenshot 2025-08-23 at 7.45.23 PM

After Aim-9X was but into service in the Navy:

Pilot testimony coming soon: https://youtu.be/YJW5As4Os4U?si=cfo8ceL4iOIAFCzT&t=1566

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I think you’ll find that other 5th gen IR missiles don’t really offer much over the AIM-9X as they’ve all plateau’d for the most part. The niche use cases where one is better than another are so… inconsequential.

i think mica ir ng is going to be by far the most meta missile when it comes, saying they’re all similar imo is wrong.

One thing to note is it specifically says “advanced radars” are capable of using the AMRAAM/9X. So it’s very possible integration went past backwards compatibility.

Advanced radars around the time 9X hit IOC advanced radars would have been AESA

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Those be 13.3 not 13.0, and I have no clue, they are getting AIM-120s so such is really not a issue.

Get 120s just like the F-16s that are going up, 120s are superior to 9Ms in functionally every situation unless you handicap yourself and use the C-5s for some reason. To that same end the JA37s mentioned have actual usable radars unlike the AWG-9.

i frankly know all that already