Are there open bug reports, if so can you link them?
Turns out thrust is actually pretty accurate now, not sure if its been updated since the patch this was made but:
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Since posting my comment I have learned two things:
Most importantly 1: Thrust changing with airspeed is simulated
2: This graph doesn’t seem to add up with the War Thunder wiki, and I can’t check in-game because of server maintenance.
On the graph it looks like it’d reach the top thrust of about 27,396kgf at 1070 TAS or so, while the War Thunder Wiki says it’s 27,220kgf at 1,200kph.
(Numbers given on max thrust range from 24,000 to 27,396kgf, if anyone has the actual numbers on like a declassified document, that’d help me out)
Regardless of statistics, the F-14B doesn’t accelerate or top out how you’d expect, and it puzzles me.
Thank you for the graph, I’m not very smart when it comes to this and could never find something like this.
Not that I am aware of, a lot of closed ones regarding the F-14s though.
I’ll look into it further.
Anyone care to check if the F-14B’s TCS slaves radar? I think it got screwed by Gaijin again:
Now it doesn’t say OLS, it says IRST specifically…
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Nope, still doesn’t do anything
Anything with an IRST will keep tracking tho, and then switch back to radar when out of notch, nullifying any advantage a target gets by notching you unless they hold the notch the entire time until the missile flies by them.
@Gunjob any reason why all IRST now get auto switched to when radar track would be lost, but the AN/AXX-1 TCS doesnt despite there being a bug report in for almost a year now?
Gaijins habit of adding things to other jets/weapons but passing over the F-14 is getting out of hand. First the AIM-54C gets snubbed its reduced smoke motor and now TCS still doesnt get to be counted as a sensor or do basically anything its supposed to do irl despite that function being added for IRST?!
To note, the TCS functionality and the 54C’s low smoke motor aren’t even contested by gaijin. The bug reports have been approved, and the documentation includes primary sources. They just aren’t being acted on “because”
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Gunjob can’t help with that. All the mods do is forward stuff to the devs and we all know bug reports are ignored if they are inconvenient.
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Theres not much else I can do but ask gunjob about it. Might have something to do with the fact that the only dev that interacts with missile posts has a clear bias against the AIM-54, maybe that extends to the F-14 as well
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Why the hell did they make the flaps deployment automatic on the f14… Irl they were automatic but the pilot had full control of them as well. They could RETRACT or deploy them at will… The F14 has now basically turned into a glorified F4 that turns very hard (breaking wings) one time and then its stuck at low energy
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Not only that the slats open at .9 mach even… 16 G’s i pulled… What on earth is this… On any other field of industry ppl lose their jobs over continous fuck ups, but here the fuck ups are the norm… Seriously go ask Heatblur for advice to model your F14…
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Politicians and CEO’s dont lose their job over failures either tbf. Maybe gaijin just has political aspirations
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I can’t access the game right now but was aware of the flaps/slats changes when data mines came out.
Is it that bad ?? I mean the F14 is still an F-14
I dont play anymore so i cant test it either, but iirc, the change to the flaps/slats actually leads to the F-14 being unable to use its flaps at the airspeed where they are most effective. The automatic use of slats would also lead to pulling more AOA than may desired, particularly in mouse aim, which might be why its seeming like the F-14 is getting pushed into the 1 circle only role despite being fantastic at both 1 and 2 circle irl and in-game previously
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Yeah got you, it prolly feels a bit like what the MiG-29 or F-16 may be so if you the pitch up key it lose speed until it stall out.
Flaps being automatic is a bit strange imo especially on such an old bird…
Do I assume all flaps are now automatic on all 4th gen aircraft right ??
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iirc, many jets got auto-flaps/slats now.
I think its a terrible idea though, specifically in mouse aim. I think it should be something you can turn on (like SAS modes) in full real controls, but mouse aim already takes a massive amount of control away from the pilot, auto flaps/slats is just an even larger loss of control
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It is that bad. You could dogfight pretty much anything and have a good chance of winning, except maybe the f16. Now you dump all your speed at the first turn, sometimes breaking your wings. It is impossible to gain energy again unless you stop turning. For me the tomcat is ruined and I cant bring myself to playing it more than a couple of matches before the frustration tops… Also this auto radar bs only adds insult to injury… The tomcat radar is just worse now… Honestly F this… I had my fun on that, it was good while it lasted. I ll keep revisiting but It will never be like it was…
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I mean tomcat would never win in a 1v1 against an F-16 because of how poorly modelled the F-16 is.
I’ll have to try it out myself against good duelists but I have hope it’s still good
Also, just to complete the radar rant, they keep adding more bs features for ppl that cant be asked to do anything themselves, reducing control for the rest of us, while not addressing any issues whatsoever. How many years do I have to wait for my radar to stop jumping on its own from one target to the next on TWS, making the use of it more difficult than it should be? How long do I need to wait to get target info other than its freaking course and distance ? No option for closing velocity in knots, no ability to see the target altitude other than your Eyeball MkI and no option to see your radar altitude scanning bracket (30k to 0 feet at the range of your target for example or whatever)… How long do I need to wait to have the actual radar control a RIO could have ? Target aspect switch, target size switch ? Too much to ask I guess, got to focus on bogus premiums and pointless " features" instead of any improvements…
Rant over
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