do you have more source for the difference of Early and Late Hawk 209? i ask in reddit about this possible separation of Hawk 209 but there is an evidence that apparently both Hawk 109 and 209 can equip or unequip the wing tip rail. other than that probably it’s only the RWR and ordnance difference
Photo of Hawk 209 and 109 from the 90s with wing tip rail
im pretty sure they can carry it by default, but the reason they’re separated is primarily because Gaijin doesnt wanna increase the BR of the current premium
So thats why i separated it into two different entities
one w/o wingtips with purely underwing Aim-9P4 (AIM-9L Seeker) & limited amount of agm [2x AA, 2x agm] (~10.7)
one w/ wingtips with AIM-9P5 (IRCCM AIM-9M seeker) as well as the added AGMs & underwing/wingtip AA pylons [possible 6x AA] (~11.7-12.0)
they could switch out the current prem model with the one without wingtips, keeping it at the same BR
Of course this is with the thinking that they're going to add the capability of carrying maverick to the inner pylons, which we dont know whether they'll do it since its only a "suggestion"
All Hawk 100s and 200s are technically capable of carrying wingtip sidewinders by design
The tips you see without a LAU-7 rail fitted, are just an aerodynamic fairing that can be taken off to reveal the flat surface where the launch rail is mounted
These photos are from an Australian Hawk 127 showing the changes to the tip when fitting or not fitting sidewinder rails
The non-sidewinder wingtip for Hawk is the kind you see on Mk.50/60 series aircraft where it’s rounded off, and has position lights in the wingtip instead of on the sides of the engine intakes.
Following the polls, some Miscellaneous vehicles has been added as a separate part of the main list. These vehicles have connections to Indonesia, but not to the extent that they can be put in the main list
Included vehicles: Mirage 2000-5DDA, Su-30KI, F-20 Tigershark, & Eurofighter Typhoon.
Reasoning for their separation is included in each section. You can check out the top or this section at the bottom
F.4.1
Added: AASM-1000, Scorpion HMCS, new and larger side displays in cockpit, new SAR and GMTI/T Radar modes, major Electronics updates (incl. new FHD video recorder, new underwing Jammers), LAM for Meteor, new IRST and improved dection, tracking and firing capabilities, SP3 modification allowing two additional MICA missiles serially used and towed Decoy “X-Guard” now technically possible
In other words; gets AASM-1000, new cockpit displays, Radar modes and new IRST.
in the top left image you can clearly see the brake parachute right above the engine, which can be commonly found on Lim-6Bis variant
Flight Major Suganda was the former Squadron Commander of the 11th Air Squadron. With this we have tangible proof that yes the Lim-6Bis were operational and was in flying condition at least around ~1970. Which is right around the time of the grounded of soviet-origin aircrafts and a switch to a western jets instead.
Considering the timeframe that the aircraft were operated in (1970) as well as the immediate liquidation of 11th AirSqd in 1974 it makes sense why there’s not a lot of mentions of us having Lim-6Bis in the first place, because for all intents and purposes, its a MiG-17, and was classified as such in records
