Why are the roland missiles so bad that they cant track an aircraft after it does a single barrel roll or steers one way? What is the actual point of adding all these random spaa systems if the roland is so awful. Just give everyone a strela if youre not gonna bother making the roland spaa systems playable
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This exactly. Transforms the Roland from bad to actually decent SAM
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Exactly. Tried this once it got added and have not used manual guidance since (for planes at least).
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Now if can only get tracking radar and proper elevation angles on French Roland it will become actually usable.
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They are correct for the model we have in game sadly. We should just get the roland 2 launcher because there is no reason not to. It is in game but france is not allowed to have its own technology.
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The elevation is actually not correct, whatever « model » we speak of (turrets are identical, it’s just the tracking radar that is missing)
This menu actually helps cheating the elevation limits. The menu doesn’t use sight to track, it’s more similar to tracking in third person view - thus, it’s only limited by the tracking limits of the (search) radar which is pretty good. This does come at the cost of needing to be fired at a lower angle and then be guided upwards, so it only works at targets more than 4km or so from experience
Yes there is no tracking radar so the elevation is limited to uow high the optical tracking can go.
I usually fire at them when they are 1km more than max distance away anyway. If they are approaching they usually get shot down at 6-7km without reacting often.
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You did not understand what I said :
The search radar is the track radar. It also has decent elevation.
Using the radar screen mode, the missile will be auto tracked by the AI. This AI does not use the optical limits. Its only limits are whether or not you have a lock on a target - ie, the tracking limits are those of the tracking radar - wether that radar is secondary to the search radar or is the search radar in track mode. Hence why you can actually fire almost vertically at a target using the Roland
currently french have AMX-30 R1, they are missing the AMX-30 R2 and R3 (R2 has tracking radar and R3 has tracking radar PLUS 2 extra launch rails)
Literally or what?
because the Rolands search radar is not capable of tracking. at all
Weve got the lav ad
yes this is all correct but the 35 degree elevation in normal use is corect
And it’s not like they can just take the turret off the german roland or something. There is a couple french vehicles like this with like zero work required and yet the last update gave us 0 new french vehicles (ships don’t count because nobody play naval anyway)
You know you can lock a target with the Roland, right ? It’s using the search radar as a tracking radar. Same with Santal, AMX30 DCA…
I think you are both speaking past each other. There are several version of it in-game and you might be speaking about different versions, two has tracking radars and one does not, the one that doesn’t uses IRST tracker.
The French Roland does to my knowledge not have the ability to track with radar.
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I keep hearing how bad the Rolands are (especially the French one), since I think they have been added, but always failed to see it, doing very well with them (including the French, which of all SAMs so far have used the most and almost most successful with only having better results in the Rapier).
The new SAM radar interface makes using the Rolands (and other SAM) much easier and reliable than before, but already before it was rarely the shortcomings of the systems that were a limiting factor, but the actual availability of target vehicles…
Nope we have been talking about the Roland, which is the name of the French vehicle in game - not the Roland system that is found on multiple chassis. The Roland can definitely track targets
uhh no… it has IRST…
French roland has IRST and search radar
German roland has IRST, tracking radar and search radar
US roland has IRST and, tracking radar search radar
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With the IR optics, not the radar.
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