Wait, the s is a similar weight to the c rather than the e? Thats a HUGE difference i was not aware of, the e’s a bit of a bus but the c (and now the s as it gets canards) acts a bit like a kite making it an extremely good dog fighter. I need to get the s even more now, the fact it gets rocket booster and guns AND missiles makes it seem like the best mirage 3 we have in game.
Its the same for the r530 on the c/e. Your gole is to get rid of them as quick as possible, be that against an av 8 whos just going to one chaff it or a mig 19 who can dodge it. Then you boom and zoom people untill they get slow then come in for the kill with guns or magics. Now the s doesnt get magics but it gets rocket boosters with guns allowing you to get slow while still being able to pull hard due to the extra thrust. If it got 9p-3s it would HAVE to go up to 10.7 no question. It should be at 10.7 already considering its a c with a better fm and countermeasures.
He means the mirage c and CJ have almost similar weight between themselves
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if the cj is the s, then it gets canards which give better low and high speed performance.
Nonono, the mirage 3S is heavier than the mirage 3E, i have played the 3s and 3cj and the 3s pulls less than the cj at basicaly any speed, its basicaly a worse 3e at lower br, even if it gets p3s it would be woese than a 3e
Cj is not the S the S is over a ton heavier than the C and Cj.
And the rocket booster by no means makes up for the increase in weight as adding the booster adds about 200kg + 800kg rocket fuel ON TOP of the extra weight you already experience. It adds if i remember right 1500kgf of thrust which is nice to have but does not make you accelerate fast enough to be able to risk losing much speed in practice.
It’s really more of a gimmick than something actually useful especially since it will attract missiles to you through flares when active.
For reference, this is the Mirage IIIS with only the gun installed:
"mass": {
"maxFuel": 2918.200195,
"noFuel": 7202.700195,
"total": 9098.700195
And this is the weight with just the gun and rocket booster:
"mass": {
"maxFuel": 2918.200195,
"noFuel": 8232.700195,
"total": 10128.700195
And once you run through the booster fuel:
"mass": {
"maxFuel": 2918.200195,
"noFuel": 7413.700195,
"total": 9309.700195
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Bro wat
was working on 2 hours of sleep bruh give me a brake… had miss read what the guy had said.
keep note that MiG-21s radar missiles are much worse than falcos, and base R-60, while having good acceleration and 30G peak pull, need to be launched from rear aspect at very close range, where they are at their weakest. MiG-21bis can sit at 11.0 with all-aspect R-60 due to this.
imo i much rather have R60s than 9Es