If dropping 2-4 flares every 1 second is not suffecient to pre-flare even with BOL, then I dont know what is. And then dropping 20-40 flares whilst throttling down and turning is not enough to break a Magic II then nothing can.
Seeker shutoff would be fine if we didnt have artificially nerfed lock ranges and could actually use the Aim-9M from further away. Though id love to get the seeker shutoff switched out for push ahead. would actually make the AIm-9Ms good
hum,… DS made comparison with MICA-VL which it have more information for.
and MICA is not as good kinematically than it should ^^"
This is how I feel trying to follow the discussion on here as a mathematically challenged person
true for both Magic-2 and AIM-9M (don’t know for the R-73’s)
but this seems to be a similar watergate case than Mistral and Stinger vs Igla’s,…
“if russian things are beaten by more than 10% then every other number is wrong, even from primary documents”
Fr man
I think this could also be a result of the way of gaijins aerodynamic physics are modeled in game. Because who knows I haven’t tested it but what if every single plane also over performs at this altitude, or maybe you have tested it and I’m just wrong lol, I don’t know. Because if the Rafale over performed massively at low altitude in game currently , but also so does everything else, so much to the point where it actually reaches the UK document where it basically states “this aircraft is better than that in that aircraft” basically what I’m trying to say is maybe everything else also over performs at this altitude so much to the point where it is accurate with the UK document saying that this aircraft is better than that aircraft at this blah blah blah blah blah. Also you say double like its a big deal, I am not a avid SIM player but I don’t think anyone really cares if the Rafale has a what, 5.7 degrees STR at mach 1.6 at an altitude of 11km . Gaijin have to change a bunch of FM things just to get it preform correctly at an altitude nobody really frequents afaik.
Because if everything over performs, but to the point where it over performs correctly in a way nothing‘s really over, performing in the game.
Difference is though, Magic II owrks best fired close, longer lock ranges wouldnt change much
Aim-9M doesnt work when fired close but you are usually forced to due to the lack of lock range.
HOBS vs Non HOBS could be balanced better by actually giving the non-HOBS at least one advantage. They jsut removed its only one in the form of giving it increased visibility
I don’t know what to tell you. It’s a military game where countries use what they produced or procured. The magic is just simply a good missile.
I think when every single nation gets there super maneuverable missile equivalent, it might be more fair but at the moment if they add those super maneuverable missiles to counter a literal radar missile that just be silly.
there would be less HOBS launch, if we could fire Magic-2 from 4.5km (i had sources for it,… denied Bug-Rep)
so is AIM-9M’s
but R-73’s would certainly be lacking behind (might be the reason why Russian made R-27T and ET after all)
So is the Aim-9M. But at hte moment its an Aim-9L with a form of IRCCM that doesnt always work. It had at least 3 forms of IRCCM iirc
Though again… This is why they developed ASRAAM. To replace the Aim-9.
Its not though. R-73/magic II dominate at the moment because of how unreliable Aim-9M is. Especailly in a dogfight
So is what?
lacking all aspect lock-range
I see what you mean. Though 14.45km vs 4.5km lock range still shows the difference in front aspect lock potential. Especially with that smokeless motor and the possible options that gives (of course 14.45km would onyl be achievable at extreme cases)
In most cases, I don’t think they am 9M is reaching that far anyways
No. Not often at least. But ive had dozens upon dozens of times the target was not just in range according to the radar. But in the fricking LSZ, but nope. No lock until practically touching the min range.
Aim-9Ms work best being fired from 2-3km in my experrience. If you cant always lock that far out… then it sucks, as it doesnt have the performance to work within 2km most of the time.
This is just a game issue. This happens with most if not all missiles.
Few have pending lock ranges buffs that are as significant a difference as the Aim-9M currently is as far as I am aware.
3km to 14.45km front aspect lock range is major. (against AB targets)
(only other that comes to mind is buffing Britains Aim-9Ls to the same figures)
source?
kinda unbelievable on early variants were introduced in the 80’s same as Magic-2
(R-73 in 1989 - but with 1977 basis in technology)
maybe those AIM-9M were latest ones, with the WGU-4E/B and not the previous WGU-4/B