So largely on par with CAPTOR-M then in terms of range
That is 20 kW peak power, which is fairly high for a pulse doppler radar, but nothing unheard of (the F-22’s radar is also widely reported to be 20 kW peak power) . Pulse radars put pulse doppler radars to shame when it comes to peak power though. For example the H2S radar (that thing hanging of the bottom of the Lancaster bomber from WW2) has a peak power of 50 kW, and the MiG-25’s radar has a peak power of 600 kW.
The more relevant figure is the average power, which at 5kW is admittedly very impressive (pulse radars won’t be anywhere near that despite their massive peak powers). But again it is not completely unheard of for pulse doppler radars to be that powerful, for example the F-14’s AN/AWG-9 from the 1960s had an average power of 4.5 kW. And I’ve seen rumours that the F-15’s radar can manage around 5 kW average power as well (though can’t find a primary source for that currently).
Ibris-E is undoubtedly a very powerful radar, but possibly not the single most powerful.
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Yes
In ECM and ECCM though ? I’m not so sure
No it doesnt, where are you pulling these lies from???
In LPRF and HPRFV, the RBE2-AA outranges the RDI (80/100km vs 130/300km and 150/180km vs 160/300km). RDI HPRF outranges RBE2-AA MPRF, which is to be expected since ranged performance is what HPRF has over MPRF, but at that point you’re comparing apples to oranges and saying the orange is mismodelled because the apple is more of an apple than it.
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probably should’ve also clarified that, I also remembers reading that some super old british radars had peak powers that were like 400x their average power, and more powerful than irbis. I mean in terms of how much that power translates to range, as I think this is probably longest range radar that we have an actual, official number for.
(not sure if we have official numbers for any 5th gen or other 4.5 gens that exceeds it)
Radar vs Radar, of course there will be limits to what an M-Scan can do, but I dont think it would be out of the fight.
But aircraft vs Aircraft though is a different matter with I think the EFT having AESA for its ECM pod thing on the end of the wing. if I recall correctly.
So CAPTOR-M Equipped Typhoon vs AESA equipped Rafale, wouldnt be a slam dunk just because the Rafale has AESA.
And thats the key part here and a big part as to why the Typhoon stuck with M-Scan for so long.
it’s certainly very impressive considering how damn small it is. Do we have any figures for the captor e? like weight, detection range, etc?
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200km+ detecting range and 200 degrees of Field of Regard
Gives some details, but not a lot of specific data.
Weight, I cant find, but id guess similar to the 200kg of the CAPTOR-M. Given it does have the Gimbal
okay, so still slightly worse than su-57 or su-35s radar, but those are also much bigger. makes sense why irbis has 2x more detection range considering it’s more than 2x its weight
Im assuming the 200+km figure is for fighter sized targets though with CAPTOR-M already able to see large aircraft at nearly 400. So Id assume similar for the CAPTOR-E at a minimum
for su-35s for comparison, certainly it can see more if it was bigger than a mig29
Without getting too technical, Radar power doesn’t necessarily translate into range. The MiG-25 radar was VERY powerful but pretty hopeless at anything other than higher altitudes due to the amount of clutter and echoes you’d get from radiating half of the Northern hemisphere.
Signal processing plays a far greater role than power and is one of the areas that can make or break a sensor. I suspect (but cannot prove) that much of the clever stuff behind Captor has more do do with how the returns are processed, rather than altering the basic physics of the radio waves coming out the dish…
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So SU-35 can detect an Aircraft carrier at 400km?
Not all that impressive if im honest
thats 3m^2. thats like f-16 or mig-29 size. su-27 for example is around 15-20m^2 (with missiles), so it would detect that at like 1000 km lol. actually would be less as signal depricates, but you get my point
eurofighter if i remember right is around 1.5 m^2, would detect that at 200 km
The sheer size difference between the two radars will always give N011 will always give it a range / power advantage over CAPTOR-M. The gimbal limits on N011 are also impressive.
As for which one’s better that really depends how you define better, personally I’d argue there’s more to it than range and power. The CAPTOR-M has lots of features like priority track, 360° electronic roll stabilisation, GMTI, etc. and there are aspects of the radars that are hard to compare with publicly available data, like ECCM and NCTR.
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Eurofighter is <1m2, while carrying missiles.
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Then someone will have to clear what that thing is :
When using the same mode on 2k5F and Rafale, I can detect Targets taking off their airfields with the M2K, but not with the Rafale
Seems to be a hard limit somewhere around 90km, not corresponding to any of the numbers you have given
n011 also gets some of those features (±120 degrees stablization, gmti (forgot number of targets, just didn’t list it as it was mainly an air to air focused suggestion (probably around 2-4)
After a quick google. I think there needs to be an * placed in this statement.
From waht I can find, thats with the radar in a narrow mode, so when you are actually using at a search radar for covering a large amount of airspace. Its probably more like 200km for a 3m^2 target