Exactly the Meta has changed players are back to multipathing making BVR play a sure fire way to waste your limited missiles. Now if I had 12 I wouldnt care. Knowing that when I merge i would still have 6+ missiles left.
Typhoon not only has to fight with it’s Radar but it also has to contend with a low number of ARHM.
And a lack of tools when it needs to get within closer ranges.
he is just a troll, he doesnt even have rafale or typhoon
I dont like to do this, but friend you do not have a Rafale or a Typhoon you dont even have a 14.0 jet.
You are here just to rage bait you have no experience in flying or facing these aircraft.
Yeah i dont like to check profiles because well it’s just a little gross but saw that too
It is fine to see if the person even has played the vehicle in question or fought against it.
Statshaming on the other hand, yes that is a little gross
This has not been my experience. Every game I normally see around 8 people at 7km alt at the beginning. Controlling altitude during the midgame is incredibly powerful as top-down aspect ARH missiles are likely to crit or kill multipathing players. What has changed is likely players are getting better at defending against ARH missiles, so long-range shots an AIM-120 is good at are not very effective, you want to close in to ranges where something like a MICA is better.
im statshaming? What? What the hell is this thread lmao
No what you’re doing is trying to say “skill issue” when you yourself have not actually even played the aircraft under discussion, indicating you are merely here to be annoying, kindly get some experience in the aircraft under discussion rather than trying to be smart about stuff, thank you
You do see players up high, depends more on the team compositions and yes even firing off missiles to disrupt an opponents launch is a viable strategy.
US teams you see F-15E and some F/A-18C (Late) up high
Russian teams seem to sit at the medium to high alt with the Su-30SM having complete battlefield awareness and a huge payload.
Games are devolving to short/medium range engagements and MICA and 77-1 are the kings
Both are equally deadly, but the Aim-120 gets better as the range gets higher.
Yes, but it’s not like the 120 is bad.
Any ARH is highly lethal against any non multipathing target that’s at close range.
It still pulls fairly hard, and it can pull alot of AoA when it needs to at lower speeds. It was better (idk why it was nerfed, it was fine before), but it’s still not bad.
It’s pretty hard to make a counterpoint against someone who will never change their view, and especially hard against someone calling the typhoon bad.
The meta is being in the notch and firing SARH missiles at high off boresight angles.
If you have R77, R77-1 or MICA with a radar/hmd that can lock targets at 90 degrees, you can be an absolute monster, as anyone that tries to close the distance will get anhialated while you remain relatively safe.
AIM120 carriers are forced to missile joust and suffer for it.
Literally just multipath. It’s stupidly easy and makes you immune to most threats.
Just because something is better, doesn’t mean the other thing is bad. I’ve performed fine in uptiers with my JF-17, and that has limited missiles and flight performance.
So now we are comparing what you consider the best aircraft in the game the OP Typhoon with “I can do well in an uptier”
Yes you can do well but anyone can however that is less likely, due to the aforementioned points made by players who fly and have used the Typhoon.
Typhoon cannot sit in the notch at ±10km and send 120s they do not have the anywhere near the same pull as the R-77-1 and the MICA. Typhoon Radar struggles to pick up contacts and keep them updated and tracked.
That is not to say you cannot do well with a Typhoon, but as one of the premier aircraft in the game it shouldnt be that far off the current meta. Typhoon needs ASRAAM and a diluted IRIS-T
Even if ASRAAM was modelled as a really long range flare resistance R-27ET I would be happy with that.
Depending on range and angle that works against a single oponent. Early game or if you simply have to face multiple chances are you will get annihilated.
I never said it was OP, and most of my arguments have been saying that it’s not bad.
Which is why you multipath to get close and launch an Aim-120 when the enemy is higher. It’s not like they pull bad, they still pull 30gs.
It does not. All it needs is a fixed radar and it would be fine. With that, it would probably be the best BVR plane in the whole game, while still being competitive WVR.
Overall I do decently in it, and not any worse than what I do in other planes. I still need to play it more to get more accurate stats.
Thats fair , I am likely conflating multiple posts.
I havent tried flying low with Typhoon since the changes, I will give it a go. Previously though even with the unaltered flight model playing as a Rat you were vulnerable to the Rafale/Mirage MICAs
I have chaffed and notched 120s from 6km away they are pretty easy to defeat.
Radar fixing will allow the Typhoon to see which would be nice as would some FM buffs.
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Why does the Rafale thread report my messages (which aren’t inappropriate, off-topic, or anything validly reportable and get removed by staff instantly). But when I go to the EFT thread, not only are my messages not falsely spam reported, but they’re engaged in a respectful and just manner?
I was talking about the same thing in both threads. Pointing out the overperformance of their respective jets. For context, this was (sort of) an experiment to see how both groups react to slight pushback of what they think. I found it weird that the thread whose plane is majorly overperforming silenced me with staff support, but the thread whose jet is (still slightly overperforming) missing critical features was more accepting of me.
Nothing is directed at anyone. Just observations of differences between how the 2 threads do things. Let’s be respectful.
Staff removed my post because i called twitter misinformation as “nonsense” (while proving with evidence that i was correct)