You see that would be a compelling argument if other planes like the EF didnt have bug report pages longer than the average devblog. And its not like those bugs are any harder to fix than the Rafales except for the garbage CAPTOR M maybe
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That is totally irrelevant.
Like for example the Typhoon having a sooty exhaust (or any aircraft that has an erreneous sooty exhaust) surely cant take 1-2 years for the devs to fix
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The amount of reports open for the EFT was less than the Rafale back before the fixes came in droves for the Rafale. And again, fixing the EFT’s flight model for example while making sure it doesn’t affect other areas of the flight model is much more difficult than changing the Rafale’s empty weight by entering a few numbers.
Still relevant when taking into account that the Rafale has the same bug report open and it still also hasn’t been fixed, so other factors are at play rather than “Gaijin has Rafale bias”. I mean, it was funny seeing this being propagated for the first few months but continuing to believe that the developers as a collective have a bias towards the Rafale still to this day is unreasonable.
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Does anyone have the Eurofighter open bug report comment on hand by any chance?
Why would it be? It sits at an unreasonable winrate. Gets Bugfixes (buffs) faster than its competitors and the MICA gets special treatment among all FOX3s. So how would people not develop the feeling that it gets preferential treatment?
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The difference though. In most cases (like the Tornado and I think the Typhoon) they usually opt for underperforming when game limitations impact how accurately they can model the FM. The Rafale on the other hand seems to be the opposite, with less drag than it should have. Its wierd…
God forbid the Tornado could actually achieve its top speed because its FM might be slightly too good compared to IRL in some places.
is the latest.
But there are a LOT of internal reports. I think Gunjob said the current count was somehwere around 110-120 open reports
I really need to get on and write another report for radar instability issues
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Occam’s razor, the most simplest explanation is the most reasonable one. They most likely have a system that determines what bug reports get prioritized the most, and the system doesn’t take into account aircraft winrate.
What special treatment?
There are some reports regarding other fox-3 seekers that have no been implemented, such as:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QhYDPYj3LIRl
Only the MICA has been given a unique seeker, the rest are C&Ps (bar Aim-54s)
Do u know if Aim120C supposed to have the same as the A and B models?
Well id love to see that system, because the way i see it there is no system whatsoever when it comes to bug fixes.
Also the bug fixes are the secondary problem. The primary problem is that every bugfix makes an already extremely well performing plane even better. The fact that Gaijin has done nothing towards closing the gap and instead widened it with the fixes is the reason why people feel that theres a bias.
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While this should get fixed, it doesn’t point to “special treatment”. Note that there are missile developers, radar developers, flight model developers and etc.
You guys have been implying that the air team developers as a whole have either been conspiring to give special treatment to the Rafale and its armaments or that again, they subconsciously have a bias towards the Rafale. And this is without any direct evidence that would prove it to be true.
Again, there are larger things at play where we are not privy to their process.
Maybe?
Im not sure, there is some evidence of upgrades but im not sure there is direct evidence of what those upgrades would actually change.
Though there is evidence (and reports) for the A/B underperforming quite a bit and those would also translate over to the C5
But like rafale gets more updating than the eurofighter. Like the only recent thing I can recall that the devs updated on the eurofighter is just a hud coloring update (and it doesn’t work properly)
Where did they say this?
Well we know a few things when looking at statements from Smin and others.
- Bug reports for vehicle/equipment made during its dev-server introduction usually gets prioritized.
- Overwhelming amount of bug reports for a vehicle or an equipment can be prioritized for a rework.
- Bug reports for a vehicle/equipment that is underperforming relative to its battle rating gets prioritized unless this fix would increase its battle-rating rather than allowing it to stay at its battle-rating
But beyond that, there isn’t much known concretely. From patterns though, we can see that air reports get fixed quicker than ground reports. Flight model reports get fixed the quickest usually, followed by radar reports, and then lastly missile reports. I haven’t looked too much into cockpit reports and how quick they get fixed.
Most air reports get fixed at the 1 year mark, with the overwhelming majority (~80%-90%) being fixed before the 2 year mark with a few slipped through beyond the 2 year mark especially if they want to keep a vehicle at a certain battle-rating.
Yep pretty much and they didnt even fix several notable bug regarding the cockpit/HUD at the same time, like the entire HUD is still squished.
Before that we got a partial radar overhaul in July which took us from the weakest radar at top tier to one of the better M-scans in theory, though its still a buggy mess with multiple open reports.
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They said it regarding the Gripen A when it was inquired, either David_Bowie said it or Smin did. But Smin can confirm this anyway if you take a screenshot of my post and ask Smin if it’s true.
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that still doesnt explain this
If it looks like bias, smells like bias and feels like bias then it might be just bias and not some obscure, hypothetical balance report priority system
Is it possible to filter a vehicle specific changes during updates?, would like to get a comparison of eurofighter & rafale
Yes its easy to dismiss it as bias since that is the easiest thing to do rather than investigate any further even if said “bias” would require more evidence of its existence than a priority system of bug reports which we know exists but we do not know how exactly it works.