Oh that’s actually easier than Pantsir haha, if you can fire a brimstone from tree top at a S-300 battery it cannot stop that missile. Hell you could at SL throw PW4 at it and it couldn’t help itself. The only challenge is keeping low enough, past that its toast.
SDB also completely defeats an S-300 battery, so F-15E’s etc can saturate multiple batteries.
Pantsir player fear Typhoon the most because of Brimstone and the flight model and thats why you will always be focussed by a Pantsir in a Typhoon!
The fact you have so many missiles that a Pantsir needs to shoot down with no range restrictions makes the Typhoon really scary.
But in terms of actual impacting the game 2 passes with a Typhoon maybe 3 kills vs Su-30…Kh-38 and 6 kills in one go.
Then I really hope we get GPS-Only Spear-3s then.
At least give us something equal to what everyone else has.
Just frustrating.
Can we have a FnF AGM like AGM-65 or KH-38MT?
Nope you arent allowed MMW
Can we have a SAL AGM like KH-38ML?
Nope, Brimstone 2 would be too OP
Can we have a GPS guided stand off weapon like GBU-39?
Nope Spear-3 is jet powered and would be too OP
Just feels like the Typhoon is getting beaten down for the sake of punishing the Typhoon nations. Heck we still have a placeholder radar that barely works after 5 months.
I tried a few matches in GSB, but nothing I could do vs the Pantsirs. I tried playing ASB and the radar just drove me nuts, playing with 9Ms only vs Su-30s spamming R-77-1s at you is not fun gameplay. So for now i’ve just abdandoned the Typhoon, been having fun base bombing in the GR4 recently and will be looking forward to the SHars when they get their usable HUD
Pantsir when i unload my whole payload on it:
Sometimes the spite play surviving and heading back to rearm is the correct play ha ha
Why would they be GPS only? If we eschew the mmW component then it has the PW4 guidance method already present in game.
No one to my knowledge has denied SPEAR-3 for being too OP? Its a SAL+IOG/GPS weapon when you ignore the mmW component, but even with its comical range, its still a tandem HEAT/frag weapon exactly like Brimstone. So I can’t see how needing a direct impact would be OP.
I think you’re shadow boxing a strawman you’ve made of the devs here.
Figuring that SAL+GPS on a long ranged stand-off weapon would be considered too OP as we havent gotten the GBU-53? Yet which is the same. So further artificially nerfing it to be GPS-Only as a way of increasing the chance of getting it maybe required.
Whenever it has been brought up in other threads there are calls for it being OP and that the only way it could be added is with GBU-53 or Grom-1s and devs quite often listen to the US/Soviet communities for input.
All I see is the Typhoon with Brimstone 1s instead of Brimstone 2s. SAL instead of MMW, a placeholder radar that barely works and a long list of bug reports that never seem to get fixed. Heck, where even is ePaveway II for the FGR4? That could have been added like a year ago for the GR7 and the fact its not even in game yet especially for the Typhoon is just insane.
SHar and Tornado have simply taught me the devs just dont care. We will have to wait a year or more for any fix and when they do come, they’ll be half finished anda buggy mess.
The fact after 5 months we dont even have CAPTOR-M yet. I think expecting even Brimstone 2s this major update is asking for too much, let alone Spear-3s
ive seen people trying to claim it would be op because “cruise missile” lol
Bro
We haven’t gotten GBU-53 because its not been added yet, I’ve seen no statements that is due to balance concerns. Most likely reason we don’t have SPEAR-3 as of yet, is we don’t have jet powered weapons as of yet. (buzz bombs not included).
Not only are Brimstones ike 200 SP cheaper, you can fire them off at plethora of different angles, also you can utilize shoot and scoot tactic, which AASM or PGM cannot do due to time it takes them to fire up seeker and confirm that it actually locked.
Right, exactly.
Which means we need to wait until they are added alongside everyone else.
It seems that asking for something that no one else has yet is a big no-no for the Typhoon.
We wont get Spear-3s until everyone else gets equal or better. Meanwhile KH-38MT exists without equal.
Its a fair statement in the use of SAL weaponry in contested airspace is more effort than a FnF weapon. Its not a complete mischaracterization. I don’t that stretches past that exact scenario but be charitable and assume its about employing weapons such as Brimstone.
I like to play F-2000A with Centauro I 120 and utilize this to the max. 18x Brimstones is my preferred loadout.
I mean 18 of them would be funny, but the warhead requires a direct impact to kill, so you can’t cheese bases with them as you can test the effectiveness of that now by hitting a base with 18 Brimstone, it does basically nothing haha.
Almost always the right loadout, as you can also abuse helicopters.
strongest use would be in SB to snipe base AA but even then the limitation of the TGP being 20km it would basically be the same as the GBU-39
SPEAR-3 isn’t a KH-38 class of weapon, they share almost nothing. You need to stop with the whataboutism and strawman arguments.
Should you wish to discuss the merits of SPEAR or Brimstone that doesn’t need to include a diatribe of “but muh KH-38” commentary.
Nah, the only concern in SB would be score-farming accross map by firing at the AF from the AF with CCRP. Even though they do little damage, they would still generate score
Yeah, also way more stable. Yesterday i played with Raf and wasted an AASM because it has quite low lock on range against helis. I also gound a bug that makes it hard to lock onto targets with 3rd person. Meanwhile i have no issue eith that with Brimstones.