well then you better learn how to exploit the EF flight model
we were talking pure flight perforamnce
missiles and avionics were out of the picture
Right after Storm Warning I had 2:1 on all 3 Eurofighters and a 2.5:1 on Rafale.
After the last update the only Eurofighter I played was the British one. It now sits below 2:1 while Rafale now sits at a 3:1.
If I check other players in random matches I see this gap widen even more. You do see better stats on Rafale accross the board.
More people are negative on Eurofighter than on Rafale.
Rafale is simply superior at the moment outside of obscure low energy rate fights.
If such a rate fight should occur and no enemy is left to missile you out of the sky beware of your teammates’ missiles…
being negative in either of them is a huge skill issue imo
you mean: enemies in blue?
So what?
Generally yes but I meant to highlight your average chances of survival after you classically won a rate fight.
i was just stating my opinion
Is there a game mode where we fly guns only?
Maybe we should also take 3 mins fuel too.
The problem is, people use pure flight performance as justification for the typhoon not to get buffs/missing features even though pure flight performance is largely irrelevant to a certain degree at top tier
I don’t know but people are saying it was in Coningsby (?) 2013-2015. Should probably take with grain of salt
Is it enough to interview a eurofighter pilot and ask if the missiles can be equipped in those pylons? Or is it not enough for gaijin
Nope, pilot statements aren’t accepted as sources. You’d prolly need an engineer that worked on the plane or similiar
Okay what about walking around the plane, and having the pilot pointing out that a mfrl launcher is compatible with the inner wing pylons. By showing the hard point connection or something
That won’t help. We’ve already proven that the pylon is compatible with AMRAAMs. Gaijin wants a source that explicitly confirms that they are actually used on that pylon
This feels like double standards
Right now there is a performance triangle in top tier.
- Manuverability
- Survivability
- Offensive ability
The Eurofighter is extremely maneuverable at high speed, and is extremely survivable due to the PD maws and excellent RWR.
It’s effective ability is very limited by comparison as it struggles with battlefield awareness due to its limited radar and can only effectively engage 1 target at a time, it has no offboresight capability at close range and can struggle if put on the defensive.
The SU30 has exceptional low speed manuverability, but poor high speed manuverability. Its survivability is also poor due to the lack of a MAWs and its RWR is very mid due to poor detection angles. It dies a lot because it often cannot detect missiles before it’s too late to either evade or notch them. It is also dead ass slow but maintains energy when manuvering very well, often to its detriment. The thrust vectoring is as much as a suicide button as it is anhwree
It’s offensive capability is exceptional and battlefield awareness is very good because of the excellent radar and large number of missiles with the ability to engage multiple targets at a time.
The Rafale has it all.
Excellent manuverability at all speeds, excellent survivability and excellent offensive capability due to the payload and radar. Literally no downsides aside from missiles that have a maximum travel distance of 50km, which is currently irrelevant anyway because nobody launches their misisles further than 40km anyway.
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Find some raf engineers at Lossiemouth on a night out, get them drunk and convince them to load meteors and amrams onto the pylons.
Then go take some pictures from the plane spotters perch.
/s
Don’t actually do that
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Even better, drunk driving a eurofighter
why only taxi it, when you could be drunk flying
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