Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Construction-wise seen from a logical point of view: I still don’t get why the Rafale is now insanely more maneuverable than the Eurofighter. Nothing in its construction allows it to be, except the slightly higher aspect ratio of the wing. It has less TWR, higher wing load, Canards placed and constructed to increase lift more than increasing maneuverability. Additionally the air intakes of the Rafale are static and not variable which should result in a great thrust loss at high speeds and especially at high AoAs.

The point of the placement of the canards on the Rafale was to increase the lift of the wings by influencing the flow behavior over the wing like on the Saab JA 37 Viggen and therefore letting it start and land on shorter runways (e.g. aircraft carriers). The closer the canards are placed to the wing, the greater the effect of increased lift, especially at high AoAs (less at low AoAs or level flight).

In contrast, the canards of the EF are placed way forward of the wing, which gives them a much greater lever of attack, resulting in much greater instant turn rate and response to pilot inputs at all speeds and AoAs.

The difference can be seen if you compare the minimal possible speed of both aircraft:
Eurofighter: 203 km/h
Rafale: 148 km/h

The current state in game feels like they switched up the principles of construction of these planes in my opinion based on the aerodynamical principles of plane construction…

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We are trying to get the Typhoon fixed. But we are cosntantly having to defend the Typhoon from fake nerfs from French mains. So if you want to aovid the Typhoon community retalitating and finding sources to nerf the Rafale. I would suggest telling the French mains to stop attacking the Typhoon cosntantly.

Case in point:

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The Typhoon had outstanding bug reports to buff its STR, ITR and speed when they issued the latest round of nerfs which is why we are so mad about them. The Typhoon legitamtely feels like it can barely maintain supersonic speeds without reheat these days. Which is just insane.

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It’s not though. If the same standard were applied to the Typhoon. We’d ahve CAPTOR-E not CAPTOR-M. Striker II not Striker I HMD, Spear-3s, AMK, etc etc. It is pretty clear why Typhoon players are mad. We can barely get a Typhoon DA level of performance at the moment

Go look at every post from MythicPi on the Rafale thread since it’s out, about nerfing speed, radar, etc. without any backup

Yep physics, aerodynamics, fluid mechanics, law of conservation of energy, etc. are all marketing lies of manufacturers.

Didn’t SPEAR 3 just get tested or something?

And he is one of the more considerate, and well researched members of the communtiy. I’d trust his comments more than most.

It is a fact that the Typhoon’s radar is one of the weakest in game because Gaijin refuses to fix it, and yet the Rafale came with AESA instead of PESA.

Despite multiple secondary sources for the inner pylon AMRAAM, it has been denied, and yet the Rafale got 8x MICA because of the export variant India uses.

Heck. Rafale has HMD IFF and the Typhoon doesnt because “reasons”. Literally no reason why we dont other than Gaijin fake nerfing us. Again

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Yeah. But if the Rafale can get HMD because the C F3 only tested it or something. Then the Typhoon FGR4 should get Spear-3 because its test fired them. With an IR seeker, would give us FnF performance similar to the AASM

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There is fair case for this one (since it’s supposed to be in service with UK) but if I posted pictures of certain loadouts tested on certain jets some people will get a bit unhappy. So tested stuff tends to be very controversial

Ok i have had enough Typhoon mains seat you asses in here and fix the plane Rafale mains seat you asses on the other forums and fix that plane

Typhoon and Rafale mains +Gripen should be working together so we dont have to have problems with the other super jets that other nations in game have ffs we are on the same team you Goobers

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Its the principle more than the practice.

Loadout options are always a balancing decision. But when we have 15km laser guided AGMs vs the 60km IR+IOG AASMs the Rafale has. The least they could do is give us Brimstone 2s which the Typhoon actually used, even if they are still restricted to SAL

Heck. Even just giving the Typhoons their full compliment of GBUs would be a start.

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Honestly still confused why they couldnt give us IR Brimmstones considering they made tv martels fire and forget. And 15km is confident when your either facing 4 pantsirs at any one moment in time or competing with the 3 su 27s already up killing the enemy team.

Ive had more like with dumb bombs, .plus its always nice getting fan mail complaining about cas despite sitting in their pantsir just after i had shot them out the sky seconds before.

Yeah… Britain tax unfortunately I reckon

PW4s remain my primary A2G weapon in nearly all gamemodes. I just run Brimstones in GSB for dealing with helis

Do brimstones really not have any type of backup GPS guidance on Brimstone 2 or 3?

At least the EFT is quite good at filling the CAP role with its IRST, coming with 6 9ms and no radar allows for silent shots, especially against the heli scum.

Brimstone 3s got an upgrade to its Inertial guidance. What that actually means I dont know, but maybe could translate to 0 drift IOG in game which would give us a psuedo GPS guidance for them. But they were small. 3 to a mount requires that and they were always meant to be used with MMW within the context found in WT and so GPS is largely unneeded.

If you need to hit something with GPS guided weapons, you used PW4s or Storm Shadows

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trying to create a userskin for brimstone, but i cant find it, what is going wrong here pls

This forum rn is…

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Ah well was worth asking about i guess. But afaik, GPS guidance section isn’t that big so no reason to not have it on Brimstone tbh