Yes, it have that capability
source ASRAAM | Air Dominance, AIR SUPERIORITY | MBDA
I never even said so, just that its harder to cool (which implies cooling?) even if ASRAAM fits a larger cooler, which seemed not that unlikely considering it has a larger body
Show me the source. CAMM has the datalink, and MBDA states so, but they do not do the same for ASRAAM
CAMM
It might not use the words “data-link”, but I’m struggling to see how a third-person designator can be used in any context that doesn’t involve datalink. I’m also 99% sure the LOAL ability is through datalink too, and not INS like you implied earlier.
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Ofc a third party requires datalink, but plane-plane datalink is enough.
The fact is that MBDA, who makes the ASRAAM, states nowhere that it has datalink, while they do for CAMM. Hell they even state it for Meteor, where it should be abundantly clear
Meteor
Their flyer on the F-35 equally states that Meteor uses datalink, while they do not do the same for ASRAAM, merely saying that it uses LOAL for over sholder shots
They don’t use the word HOBS for the ASRAAM either, does that mean the seeker is narrow FoV?..
No, but with HOBS there isnt the precedent that all other missiles with it have it explicitly stated. With data link there is
I think that’s a stretch tbh. There is a precedent for talking about DL with respect to long-range missiles. I wouldn’t say it’s explicit for short range IR missiles.
Like I said - I’m not seeing how a third party, potentially on the ground, can slew a target for an already launched ASRAAM by any means other than data link.
Because it cant, unless you have a source that specifically states it?
I literally sent a screenshot from their website which says it has third-party slewing for Lock-on-after-launch.
That may just mean a 3rd party can tell the missile where the target is before it is launched and the missile can then lock that target after launch based on it’s predicted position.
My idea was that if they advertise it as third-party slewing, that means the target designator is sending information directly to the missile - not sending target information to the ASRAAM carrier. Sending info to the carrier which passes it on to the missile would be a feature of the carrier aircraft, not the ASRAAM missile. So if the missile is capable of receiving instructions remotely, I can’t see a logical reason why that wouldn’t continue after launch i.e datalink.
Like I get the impression with quite a bit of British tech. What it “can” do in theory and how they use it in reality may differ. That might impact the wording of it. I doubt there is much practical reason to have a second aircraft even provide DL for an ASRAAM, especially with the kind of operations the Typhoon has actually been deployed to.
I’m sure if there was ever need for it to be guided like that, they’d do it. (They are developing a ground based SPAA that fires ASRAAM so it’s probable from that as well)
already operational
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Yeah I found a few articles that mention the datalink, but none from the manufacturer, so probably not “official” enough for the UK tree.
I did so too, but i did not got them here before, as outer sites are not valid enough to prove a case here
I mean, if we use secondary sources, I could show this Defense Update Defence Industry News Military Technology Magazine
Unlike missiles equipped with radio datalink to facilitate lock on after launch functionality, ASRAAM performs LOAL capability by predicting where the target could be as its seeker enters search mode after launch.
Secondary sources just arent reliable, thats why I argued purely on MBDA releases, where all missiles that we know have datalink (CAMM, CAMM ER, Meteor, MICA, MICA VL, SPEAR, SPEAR EW) have this specifically stated, while ASRAAM doesnt. It just doesnt seem likely that a datalink is implied here but nowhere else
It will be a new kind of FAPpening
So i had my chances to test out the 27mm Mauser BK27 cannon while grinding out the tornado and used both the standard and the anti air ammo belts, and it just seems to me that the ammo belts performance is quite bad and thats with 2 cannons, compared to the Mig 29 30mm GSh-30-1 , the ammo belt composition currently just seem way less effective, in the Mig 29 i only ever took the standard belt because it killed my targets and was useable for ground pounding.
In the mean time the mauser standard ammo belt is mostly APHE for ground pounding, which arguably is the decesion because it is a striker, but the anti air belts arent that great either and the self detonating rounds are annoying as well and might ruin longer distance shoots and hinder the multi purpose for ground pounding
I’ve gotten a few kills with ground belts in the Gr1 (in the past) and I think RealShitter is back, so maybe AP rounds are better at the momnet