Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

No, you are crying about how French mains would like a historically accurate radar. French mains have no issues with Captor-M being accurate.

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Probably?
It can or it cannot. Probably, likely do not really cut it and if you don’t know that’s also fine.

You also are not taking into consideration the significant amount of bribes Snegma and Salty sent to both the Fr*nch and Swiss governments

TBF, BAE does the same lmao

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States the radar is likely underperforming but its already vastly superior to all other radars in-game atm and explains that it is working as an ESA as per gaijins current model of ESA’s, contrary to what the person I was replying to stated → “crying” xD

Interestingly, it seems that Gaijin are very “aware” of the performances of the Eurofighter. They have rejected some flight model reports in the EFT due to their own internal sources from their consultants which makes sense since the EFT is used in 3 different tech trees in-game and I would not be surprised if their consultants supplied them with assorted amount of sources.

This ultimately means that the Eurofighter is both hard to buff but also hard to nerf since they have their own sources to compare with. In contrast with the Rafale there were limited amount of information and so they are forced to take our word for it.

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Any actual source? This is just a blog:

The point… Typhoon has one of the weakest radars at top tier. Heck, at the moment its almsot weaker than the Blue Vixen which it should be a C&P of currently somehow.

Rafale has the strongest radar in game right now by a very very long way.

Not denying that AESA needs to be modeled better, but the priority needs to be for the Typhoon and not the Rafale because as it stands currently. The Typhoon almost needs a BR reduction due to its poor performing radar.

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The link to that source indicates it was written by one of the engineers for the radar. But can only be considered a secondary source, But in the absence of primary data. Secondary sources are all we have. A lot of what is said in that “blog” tracks with other sources and so I trust it.

But you have yet to provide any source that the Rafales radar can track 40 targets… So…

In RB, this is pushing it, in sim I’d almost be ready to agree.

Radar scan speeds and area are largely irrelevant in a gamemode where all players are provided the crutch that is the spotting system, or in the case of GFRB, where engagement distance are effectivelly all within HMD lock ranges. In sim tho, radar quality is a huge deal.

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Yeah… Almost, I wouldnt say it does actually need a BR reduction, its just about good enough in most other respect to compensate, but how you play is rather handicapped/influenced by the radar performance or lack there off.

I would think having multiple sources stating the same thing it would be idiot proof. Unfortunately Gaijin do not use a common sense approach.

If we cannot trust the manufacturer, the operators of a system and Gaijin will not accept pilot accounts it makes improving the Typhoon very difficult. I’m looking forward to the DCS Typhoon this year it will be nice to use an airframe as it should be and not this hamstrung mess.

I just hope they use the same level of scrutiny for the Su-30 and F-22…It has to be consistent.

I also think Captor-M should be historically accurate. Rafale’s should also be historically accurate, though, and if necessary this should be reflected in BR changes (hence why the system exists).

Nah… this is called crying:

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Though even then, something like the Rafale can find you instantly and fire but it can sometimes be really hard to spot the rafale to use ACM/HMD to lock the radar on

You clearly have no idea what crying is then lmao. Complaining that your radar, which is already by far the best in-game, isn’t good enough by some indefinite metric is what could actually be described as crying. As Morvran already stated, the RBE2-AA should be fixed, but it should be so low on the priority list that it shouldn’t even be brought up, that was my point.

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There’s other sources, but this should be more than sufficient.

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And it should, though we arent the US or USSR, so we wont get a BR reduction ever. If anything we’ll just get pushed up to fight exclusively AESA radars with no buffs at all.

But between the 2. Typhoon needs a load of bug fixes and Rafale doesnt. And yet Rafale seems to be getting them all recently and what should be relatively basic things on the typhoon, still havent been addresesd

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I don’t even turn the Radar on in ground battles until I’m ready to shoot, it gets you killed I fly around with the IRST system if I have my Radar on I’m with range of any other jet with a superior Radar!

Even an F-4S is a threat to Typhoon

You are also comparing the 90s early 2000s Radar Captur M with a 2013 Radar.
Gaijin should have added the earlier Rafale and not the current one in service.

CAPTUR E will bring the Typhoon to the same level but we will have to wait for a complete new jet and for the meantime we will continue to be outclassed by the Rafale until the Typhoon FGR 4 Tranche 4 is added.

Rafale has mostly been getting flight model fixes recently. In most cases, multiple primary sources have been provided to the devs providing data points for the flight model to be corrected to. In every case, the devs have chosen the primary source which would provide the least buff.

Eurofighter flight model has largely been configured based on the devs’ own research using MoD documents. The same extent of research hasn’t been done for the Rafale. It is therefore not surprising that the Rafale keeps seeing corrections to its flight model, whereas the Eurofighter has already mostly been configured per the devs’ own research.

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