Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Well, in the case of the AIM-9L sensor it has the 8 laser-emitter diodes and 8 light-sensor diodes.

They are said to emit in a “spoke” pattern, which suggests they are not like the laser level, rather emit a narrow laser sort of like a laser pointer. I don’t see why the laser wouldn’t be able to move or pulse in a pattern of some sort to rapidly scan the area though.

Reading into it, the AIM-9X block 2 integrates an improved AOTD (Active Optical Target Detector).

The new layout is visible, and they don’t go away from the 4x 90 degree coverage sensor layout.

Further research suggests most modern IR missiles use either 4x 90 degree sensors or some kind of radio frequency proximity fuse. Must not be as awful as claimed. IRIS-T uses exclusively RF fuse, others use exclusively AIM-9X block 1-esque laser fuse, others have options for either / or.

From my quick googling, those are using a rotating mirror or prism to project the laser

Flames text just doesnt mention any sort of mechanism that could allow for the beam to scan, through I’m still pondering on the “the detection area is the intersection of the transmitted beam and the receiver field of view.” bit, that kinda sounds like the beam is static and the receiver covers 90°, but then why?

And besides, for an actual plane, you really dont need any scanning, they are too large to slip through any gap even if only 4 narrow beams are projected

Although I admit I wasnt aware of AIM-9X Blk II, those rectangular windows look more like they could include some scanning or beamshaping, compared to the round ones on the Blk I and ASRAAM

EF will have prolly the best flight performance of all jets that will come in the near future

better in what? flight performance? radars etc?

none of the currently in service EF tranches have AESA

Thats what a lifting body is…

Isnt the CAPTOR-E AESA? Thats currently fitted to the UK FGR4?

what makes you think it will be DoA lmfao

as far as i know its not fitted rn, but tested - tranche 5 is meant to have AESA iirc

This is a different laser…In Russia, it has been used for 50 Years…There are many types of semiconductor lasers in the IR range of pulsed mode of operation with pump current pulse generators…
R-73L was presented at Mosaeroshow-89. Export version - R-73LE…

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Yeah just did a bit more digging, it doesnt state if any have been fitted yet, but does say CAPTOR-E Mk.2 is on order to retrofit around 50 current FGR4s with CAPTOR-M

However CAPTOR-E Mk.0 is in service with the Kuwaiti & Qatari AF on some of their 'Phoons

T2 and up can be retrofitted with captor-e; the German ones are all getting the Mk1 from 2025 onwards. i wouldn’t expect mk1 or mk2s on operational aircraft before that

These were just plans-see my post above…

past precedence. Look at the two Tornadoes. Yeah granted you can get the ADV to work well once u spade it but you need to a) spade it (have fun) and b) get downtiers ideally.

Just that eurofighter will be actually good? Lul

It might at least stand a chance. Unlike our current options which either a) dont turn, b) can’t run, or c) can’t do either and worse still have a rubbish weapon set.

Eurofighter has very good performance
Also ADV has good missiles good radar and alot of flares
Gr7 has 9Ms, so UK is not lacking weapons, its lacking flight performance wich EF will solve

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that would be my argument. the aircraft we all have critically lack flight performance. yes, the GR.7 can cut everyones turn in the first turn, but that’s because of the lack of ability… for the want of a more succinct explanation, to run away from things. it doesn’t have any ability to choose an engagement. the Tornado can’t turn, simply put, and the Phantom lacks the weapons, radar, and manouevrability to ever really be viable in top tier

meanwhile, the Eurofighter is waiting in the wings…

I know the F-14 Fuselage provides lift too, but I’m sceptical that every square metre of it is providing lift, which is what the figure on wikipedia claims as “effective lift”. I can’t find a good source for the total effective lift, but it’s definitely not nearly double the wing area.

Its not just “every square meter” of it thats counted on wikipedia, the lifting body square footage is taken from an actual F-14 design evolution presentation. The actual slide being referenced is:

And that presentation was given by former Northrop-Grumman VP Mike Ciminera.

still doesnt take away form the fact that the Eurofighter has like one of the lowest(like 2nd to the Hal Tejas afaik) wing loading of a modern in service fighter jet.

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