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If you thought for even a second you would realise how stupid this is. It took me all of 3 seconds to realise they are both guided the same way to target and both have the ability to "find2 targets for themselves. So let me simplify it, pirate can guide missiles via DL (DL doesnt care what kind of missile its guiding, all it knows is its guiding a missile). So it doesnt matter if its an ir or arh missile it will get it close enough for the seeker to take over, you wouldnt expect an r27er to hit a target through dl alone so why assume the same for asraam or amraam? Its all a little stupid.
What is your definition of supercruise?
What sensor is sending the DL information
Is this a meme I am missing out on? I already explained;
If you want a short and sweet answer, it is an aircraft that can cruise at supersonic speeds beyond the wave drag barrier most times seen around 1.3 mach.
Note that I say cruise, as in, not at full dry thrust setting.
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So you have a different definition for “Supercruise” than everyone else?
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I dont see anything in the definition of supercruise saying about not being allowed to use full dry thrust. Other than your goalpost bending
There is no holdup. An answer has already been provided: Community Bug Reporting System
It supercruise now with max speed ~M1.3 at 9000m as supposed, measuring at 11km is incorrect.
As for M1.5, we need more sources to confirm this information.
The dev server fm performance and models could be far from final state,
The performance is currently based on all available public performance data. The devs have not ruled out 1.5m as an impossibility, simply that the most conservative values that can be reliably proven are currently being used. Should clear cut data about the 1.5m conditions become clear, the case can easily be re-reviewed.
It is however very clearly proven the aircraft can supercruise.
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The name itself implies cruise
The term is best met by the F-22 which cruises at supersonic speed - unlike the Eurofighter which must be at maximum dry thrust and not at cruise throttle setting.
thanks smin
In-game it goes 1.3 mach clean, the public data suggests 1.4 on hot day conditions and with ordnance mounted. Is that disparity not sufficient to warrant a subsequent report?
cruising is no more than staying at a consistent speed, how much throttle doesn’t really come into it. you are just bending definitions just as you are with sensor fusion because you cant stand the idea of typhoon being a good aircraft.
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Lightning was mentioned, LIGHTNING MY BELOVED. Who i wish we had the f.2 in game.
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Well in a discussion about supercruise you cant not mention the aircraft which created the phrase and definition
Are you aware of the jet that introduced the term “supercruise”? The definition may be being used differently but that doesn’t change the old requirements because some company used it in their marketing (aka, lockhead martin using supercrusie differently to everyone else perhaps?).
Supercruise is being able to go mach on dry thrust, fact. The definition has been in use since the 1950’s and i highly doubt many jets could even manage that back then, so this “new” definition is probably lockhead trying to get some key words in their marketing.
Best example for this would be “modularity”, if you want a contract from the us army your gonna need modularity in their somewhere or the politicians (high up brass) wont even look in your direction even if they have no clue what they are on about.
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Look - watch what you are saying. If Mr Floggy submits a report and gets the Lightning nerfed to subsonic Meteor speeds - I’ll hold you responsible.
It is a reduced throttle setting intended to allow efficient operation, improved SFC at a given airspeed. The F-22 is optimized to be able to cruise at 1.5 mach and fly in dry thrust up to 1.82 - this matches the term wholly.
The F-106 exceeded the sound barrier on dry thrust in service as early as 1956. I am not sure if the EEL demonstrated it prior but it was limited to 1.1 - 1.3 mach and only in near arctic weather conditions whereas the F-106 can comfortably fly up to 1.5 mach on full dry thrust.
Delta Dart? :)
The definition of stealth has shifted over time too.
I mean we arent allowed to have red tops with their accurate all aspect ability so I wouldn’t be surprised if it got gimped more
That is a problem with all infrared missiles lacking all-aspect capability against afterburning targets and in other conditions. Gaijin’s modeling of IR seekers and IRST is poor.
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