Curse you, Thales! Lying since 2002
There was nothing about Typhoon in 0.42/3/4/5. 0.46 is one of the smallest micro updates I’ve seen in the time (a couple of months) I’ve been tracking them.
So then how does the Angle Rate Bombing Set work, then?
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Thats obvious…
magic.
Yep - ‘but Russian Stronk Fighter not do this? - is impossible!.’
Of course, we can leave aside the fact that with enough computing power (which is probably why Russian IRSTs might struggle) - a number of ‘fixes’ could be taken in terms of horizontal or vertical angles and combined to give a reasonable position. Certainly ‘good enough’ to send an AMRAAM or Meteor into the general area of your unwitting target. Two Typhoons with enough separation could probably get a VERY accurate fix if they were linked-up, without the target being tipped off.
Similar to TMA (Target Motion Analysis) done by a submarine, which relies on another passive sensor (passive sonar) to locate it’s targets without emitting anything.
Unless Soviet subs can’t do that either? Actually I don’t want to know - the devs appear to be living in the 1950s with a firm belief that technology never progressed beyond big lumps of wood and tractors.
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Also marketing lies. It’s not possible.
I think for a start it would be nice to implement TWS at IRST. I’m not 100% sure, but I saw something similar in this thread.
It’s known russian air craft can fire r-77s through IRST.
Well, Gaijin obviously seems to disagree.
I wouldn’t be surprised if PIRATE learns to launch AMRAAMs only after, say, the Su-30SM learns to do so.
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And the F-15 gets the LEGION pod…Imagine Britain getting a first for anything
I think everyone’s forgetting something, the irst can guide in asraams right? whats the difference between asraam and amraam when it comes to guiding it in? Am i missing something or shouldn’t this be enough as its not like they expect the asraam seeker to be spotting targets 20km out with a little help from the irst…
Such specific radar behavior as described here would be interpreted by players as a bug - broken RWR.
Thats funny
Isnt it?
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Well the AMRAAM or Meteor would have a DL to the launch aircraft out to a certain distance. There is nothing to prevent targeting information from the IRST from being used to provide corrections via DL to the missile in-flight. It wouldn’t be as good as a hard radar lock and the range would likely be FAR less.
Alternatively, the IRST could be used to get an estimate of the target’s course/speed/altitude and then the AMRAAM could be launched to where that target is predicted to be. Kind of like an extended Mad Dog shot.
There are a few ways it could be done.
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Bearing in mind that it would probably be very specific to an ambush situation where you wanted to get the first shot off (even if it isn’t the most accurate or 100% likely to land a hit). The disruptive ‘where the hell did THAT come from?’ effect would give the attacker a valuable chance to fire a second, radar-guided shot while their opponent is ducking the first missile while simultaneously trying to fathom where their attacker is.
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Meteor is designed to have LOAL and Loiter capabilities the IRST system was developed for combating Russian Gen 5 stealth aircraft.
Yeah, yeah. Keep dreaming. Bless to major’s, doom to minors
The difference is that AMRAAM needs to know the speed of the target to distinguish the target from dipoles, ASRAAM flies to the point indicated by the datalink and looks for the closest hot target there, filtered from signal flares, to the center of its flight axis.
If I’m not mistaken, the approximate range of ASRAAM will be slightly less than what Derby can do. A thick rocket with a large engine, a sleek body and minimal aerodynamic drag.
What is the difference with the usual guidance by radar datalink? Exactly the same set of data. Target deviation by horizon, by height, distance to the target and its speed. All these 4 parameters are already provided by IRST and Radar. Where is the difference? It seems to me that only in the accuracy of determining the range/speed. The rest is identical.
Anyone else noticing no improvement to the Typhoons Radar?
I mean yes HMD locks faster, TWS is still terrible still doesn’t find targets.
I honestly cannot believe this is meant to be a premier flagship airframe and I spend most my time trying to visually lock aircraft because the TWS return is 6 months out of date.
It has to improve
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would be quite convenient…
Need some help here every 120 I launch from above on a low flying aircraft is missing and sensor view looks like its the DL from the “fantastic” Radar that is just sending them into the ground.
Apologise for the wide screenshot, missile is coming in above the helicopter and then just impacts the ground instead of trying to hit the heli. Had the exact same thing with an F-16 flying slow and towards me after missing with the 2 120s I managed to kill him with a Brimstone!
Multipathing?