Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

[Dontkev-psn]

Its an boring update, also called Nothingburger

2.43.0.46

[tripod2008]

Which one?

Summary

F-8 exerpts come from the F-8D’s Flight manual

and tac manual

The F-14 manual excerpt itself comes from one of the Redacted (Declassified) revisions of “An Outsider’s View Of The Phoenix/AWG-9 Weapon System” which was released in part under FOIA.

[warthogboy09]

@luque13

Imagine Britain getting a first for anything

Get over yourself with that pathetic persecution complex.

This has been missing from the game for a lot longer than the Typhoons addition.

[warthogboy09]

@F0x_Hunter

To fully issue target designation, ARH missiles require the speed of approach to the target, and the range.

This is the part of the response that I think is hilarious, like what is the determination of speed from any sensor that isn’t just taking the range data multiple times? It’s such a stupid response I can’t believe they even bother writing it.

They acknowledge the PIRATE is capable of ranging, but refuse to believe it could do it multiple times to create a track file for a target that includes speed?

[tripod2008]

@warthogboy09

like what is the determination of speed from any sensor that isn’t just taking the range data multiple times?

Analyzing the radar waveform can provide instantaneous ranging, which is probably what they are referring to.

“One method of obtaining range information from a CW radar uses frequency modulation (FM). The modulation can be sinusoidal, sawtooth, triangular, or any shape, as long as the rate of frequency change is known. The transmitter emits a continuous signal, but the frequency is changed in a known pattern. When the echo returns from the target, it is then compared to the frequency being transmitted. This frequency difference is directly proportional to the range of the target.”

@warthogboy09

They acknowledge the PIRATE is capable of ranging, but refuse to believe it could do it multiple times to create a track file for a target that includes speed?

I guess it would be a question of if it was accurate enough to create a sufficiently detailed track for an active radar missile to use for midcourse corrections, which it obviously is sufficient to get it into range of the onboard active seeker to provide terminal guidance.

[UH虎今天吃什么]

Why is the catcher so fond of locking on missiles and not on the enemy

[luque13]

I’m not wrong though, new the mechanics are often reserved for the “bigger” nations

Yes it was a flippant remark.

[Dontkev-psn]

When HMD with IFF (copium)

[luque13]

If you shoot down your enemies missiles they can not harm you. Making you unkillable!

I don’t know they seem to have changed the code or RCS for all missiles to give all SPAA/SAMs a chance to shoot down missiles and bombs.

I feel we are experiencing this as a side affect

[DevilO6]

You can have it even right now. All you need is ally in front of you and TWS.

[Dontkev-psn]

I mean real IFF and not those RNG radar IFF

[DevilO6]

Then no. As you can see on the screen below the HUD, in game EF is not connected to any DL, meaning no info. Smart devs.

[MythicPi]

Only France is allowed to have perfect 24/7 IFF with no emissions /s

[MightyBaozi]

Any manual, It’s best to always show that something is declassified. In that case i was answering to the F-8 screenshots iirc.

[F0x_Hunter]

@warthogboy09

This is the part of the response that I think is hilarious, like what is the determination of speed from any sensor that isn’t just taking the range data multiple times? It’s such a stupid response I can’t believe they even bother writing it.

They acknowledge the PIRATE is capable of ranging, but refuse to believe it could do it multiple times to create a track file for a target that includes speed?

@Tea_And_Country

The point i was getting at was, your guiding a missile in the rough location of the enemy and the missile itself can attain a lock later on. So whats the problem with it being less accurate?

@tripod2008

I guess it would be a question of if it was accurate enough to create a sufficiently detailed track for an active radar missile to use for midcourse corrections, which it obviously is sufficient to get it into range of the onboard active seeker to provide terminal guidance.

In any case, it looks like “we don’t want to release this feature yet, and the proofs are classified, so leave us alone”. As I already said, I will not be surprised at all if they suddenly find evidence that PIRATE can launch AMRAAMs as soon as such systems appear on the planes of major nations.

@Dontkev

When HMD with IFF (copium)

With HMD Striker 2. We don’t have that one now. It’s HMD from Tranche 3, if I’m not mistaken.

[MythicPi]

@F0x_Hunter

In any case, it looks like “we don’t want to release this feature yet, and the proofs are classified, so leave us alone”. As I already said, I will not be surprised at all if they suddenly find evidence that PIRATE can launch AMRAAMs as soon as such systems appear on the planes of major nations.

Who wants to bet the Rafale is gonna get the ability to do so, but no other jet will?

[_OceanFish]

There :

Spoiler

MICA should be capable of being launched with OSF/IRST

Are you feeling better now instead of saying french biais for whatever reason ?

[Faster_Boiiiii]

@F0x_Hunter

With HMD Striker 2. We don’t have that one now. It’s HMD from Tranche 3, if I’m not mistaken.

any specific source suggesting that it is explicitly not possible with HMSS?

[F0x_Hunter]

@Faster_Boiiiii

any specific source suggesting that it is explicitly not possible with HMSS?

any specific source suggesting that it is explicitly possible with HMSS? You can’t refer to documents known to the entire Internet)

I know that the striker 2 is a much way more advanced device, but about the current HMD

[Dontkev-psn]

Gib UV-Filter

Zusammenfassung