You mean like the F3 Late?
It’s what happens when Blue Vixen and Fox Hunter have a baby.
It will likely be the best radar in game when its added and remain the best non-AESA radar in game for the remainder of War Thunders life. (and whilst AESA will be better, it wont be a notable handicap either)
Its gunna be a true powerhouse.
Which tells me the Typhoon is probably gunna have Blue Vixen at launch :D
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Uhm… probably not? The Rafale is coming with the RBE2 PESA radar, which Id be incredibly suprised if the CAPTOR-M was better than.
Then theres the Su-34’s PESA radar, which i admittedly dont have much info on, but seems to be a stellar radar in-game.
J-10B/J-11B that are coming likely have worse radars, though i know basicly have no info on them, so maybe they’ll surprise me. The J-10A already has a ±85 deg radar which are disgustingly good angles, tho the radar itself does have some issues (TWS scan volume is iffy at 40x10deg or 80x5deg which makes it a wee bit hard to find stuff sometimes)
Then theres the Kfir Blk60 that was leaked as an event vehicle for this month, coming with the EL/M-2052 AESA radar (our first fixed win AESA looks to be a premium! Who’s excited?! Hint: not me, I hope the leak is wrong) with a WHOPPING 200 deg azimuth (±100deg!!!) making it fully capable of notching plus a little more WHILE guiding weapons! (Such a great idea as an event vehicle gaijin!)
It’ll be good, thats for sure, how good im not sure, hence me wanting details, but the Rafale will surely have a better radar, and if the Kfir Blk60 does in fact come, it blows every radar in-game and not yet in-game out of the water for patches to come, likely not having an equal until other swivel AESA’s are implemented, such as the Gripen-E’s PS-05/A AESA, or Captor-E, which I dont expect to see for hopefully another year+…
From what I remember. Captor-M outperformed the Rafales early PESA radar by quite a bit
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Seriously? Thats suprising, id have to see a quote to trust you on that no offense. Pretty sure avionics and air to ground capabilities have always been stated to be in the advantage of the Rafales until very recent Typhoon variants…
I’ve got no specific sources, only “forum gossip” and bits a pieces I’ve read around. But yeah. Im fairly certain that CAPTOR-M will likely be better than both the Rafale and Su-34s PESA in quite a few respects (but not necessarily in all aspects).
Think all the strengths of Fox Hunter combined with all the strengths of Blue Vixen and then made even better.
I dont think its until the AESAs are added that the CAPTOR-M will be out matched and Im not entirely convicned they are coming this update so far. But soon
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It’s relatively widely known that it outperformed significantly in range, from memory. Though I have also read it underperformed in resolution compared. Don’t think Gaijin models that tho, so should just be better than the early pesa.
No offense, but I dont place much trust in forum gossip without sources. Every nations mains pretends their turds dont stink and they’ve got the greatest tech to have ever graced the face of this foresaken world. It surprises me in no way that random ppl on the forum have claimed that the EFT’s radar is some magical piece of kit unmatched by anything but the most advanced of AESA’s, crafted by the gods of 3 pantheons in the fire of a dying star
I could see it being better than the Su-34’s PESA, cuz the russians seem to act mostly like cavemen banging rocks together when it comes to aviation beyond ~1980’s (its a miracle they manage to keep things flying quite frankly), and if it is, ill be very happy, since as mentioned, the Su-34’s PESA is stellar in-game (best radar ive seen by far atm), but I have serious doubts of claims its better than a french PESA, and theres no way it’ll be anywhere even close to the EL/M-2052 rumored to be on its way with the Kfir.
Range aint super relevant in WT considering how small the maps are (128x128km is a bad joke at this point) scan pattern, scan volume, scan rate, and gimbal limits are all vastly more important in-game once your radar can reliably see/track targets at/beyond like 50-70km.
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Captor-M’s a pretty spiffy bit of kit. I’m not a big fan of the EFT, I think it looks like a wrong jaguar and a bastardised Rafale. But the radar was pretty solid compared, according to a multitude of sources. The primary advantage being range, with a couple of limitations that may not be represented in game. The scan speed is pretty exceptional. From some stuff I’ve read, it would have better angles, but I’m not entirely convinced on this front.
Gib longer maps pls 😿
Any forum legal sources?
Probably, it’d just be a matter of me finding them again lol
I don’t tend to keep track of what I read on things I haven’t the most interest for. I’ll see if I can find them.
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The meme wrote itself
Absolutely. 2 whole gigabytes of SDRAM. Absolutely lightning fast at 333mhz.
Memes aside, the AESA version of the Eurofighter could easily be the ECRS Mk0+, no? Speaking of >90 degree gimbal range;
Or Captor-E, whichever was ultimately used idek anymore
From what i’ve been able to find on the forum and online. (Gunna trust that people like Flame and Gunjob have some really solid sources for these things)
ECR-90 has (or was intended to have) a scan rate of 10 degrees in 30 milliseconds (which works out at something like 333° / second)
and can
The high scan rates generated by the servo motors allow for interleaved operation, quasi-simultaneously operating in modes like Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mapping and Track While Scan (TWS) which is something usually only phased array radars are capable of. - source
Based upon those and other bits and pieces I remember reading on here. Id be reasonably confident in saying it will be at the bare minimum, equal to PESA radars, but maybe superior to early PESA Radars
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I’m like 90% asleep, I actually had to be awake today. Cut me some slack, I type poorly when sleepy.
CAPTOR-E is the AESA variant of the CAPTOR-M
But there are multiple variants of the CAPTOR-E radar
ECRS0 Mk0, Mk1 and Mk2
Going by Wiki, its late, cba to find anything else
Mk0 is in service with Kuwait and Qatar
Mk1 is in service with Germany and Spain
Mk2 is going to be deployed to the RAF (iirc, the UK was waiitng for the ECRS Mk2 which was a notable upgrade over the mk1). Italy and Germany are still debating it I think.
- Captor-M: Mechanically scanned antenna. Interface and integration of the radar to the aircraft by BAE Systems
- Captor-E ECRS Mk0: Interface and integration of the radar to the aircraft by BAE Systems.[21] AESA antenna, the T/R modules are made with GaAs HEMT HPA (gallium arsenide High Electron Mobility Transistor High Power Amplifiers)
- Captor-E ECRS Mk1: Interface and integration of the radar to the aircraft by Airbus Germany.[21] AESA antenna, the T/R modules are made with GaAs HEMT HPA (gallium arsenide High Electron Mobility Transistor High Power Amplifiers)
- Captor-E ECRS Mk2: Interface and integration of the radar to the aircraft by BAE Systems.[21] AESA antenna, the T/R modules are made with GaAs and GaN HEMT HPA (gallium arsenide and gallium nitride High Electron Mobility Transistor High Power Amplifiers). This enables efficient multi-tasking of radar tracking use and electronic warfare simultaneously.[22] It is installed on a pivot derived from the one used on the Gripen E with the Selex ES-05 Raven radar. The wider bandwidth meant that a new radome was needed.[23]
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Cannot positively identify targets at 65+ km from NCTR
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Comes from this source originally, it appears; link
@WreckingAres283 Do any Rafale variants accommodate the two-way datalink for Meteor or is it true that the Eurofighter can utilize this and the Rafale simply cannot; ?
I have been informed that the full edition of this book has information on the CAPTOR-M radar as well as the F-22’s APG-77 in chapter 52. Does anyone have a copy?
There Is not debate for us, we entered the project in 2021.
From what I read (wiki) they’ve yet to order them or something which I assume was something along the lines that the politicians were still debating it. But it’s badly worded. Yeah the source says they have ordered 24
Isnt that aesa dish fixed? Its literally impossible to get more than about 70° to the side out of fixed aesa.