Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Honestly, while I applaud @Gunjob , @DevilO6 and others for the effort- @Mulatu_Astatke didn’t even know Brimstone did not have and IR seeker at the start of this discussion.

If one of his core beliefs is that a missile he doesn’t even understand isn’t capable of ATR, then let him think that, there is no point in arguing with an ideologue.

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If it had IR we could have FnF Brimstones…Alas it was never implemented

Correct me if I’m wrong, but judging by the fact that it’s a radar… Information it aquires can not be a flat 2d image. It would be a set of gradients variety of which is being determined by distance to the measured point. Which is, inherently, a 3d model. The fact of being a radar should also allow for far more easy and precise filtering by, for example, speed (moving objects) or a set of predetermined patterns, for example a massive clutter cloud (tree).
UPD. Now that I’m researching the topic more - figured out that MMW is incredibly sensitive to metal.

Martel was implemented with a different guidance type to bring it inline with what the devs wanted, there is no reason that the same could not have happened with Brimstone.

It ‘could’ have been given IR capability rather than MMW in WT, it could have been given a MMW LOBL only capability with a boosted seeker range.

The reason Brimstone wasn’t implemented in a way that made it strong was that a dev decided thus, nothing more and nothing less.

I think this is the highest level of “my favourite tech surely cant be worse in anyway compared to x” ive ever seen

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you see it from him all the time, especially if it is about british tech

Guys I’m going crazy or after new micro-patch Typhoon turns even worse?

Placebo, the typhoon can still hold his own even after the nerfs, brought a 3v1 to a draw(enemy still won bc points) against a su30 f18 and j10, killed the last player in the j10 by ramming him while literally half dead, would have outright won if a lucky shot didnt disable my radar.

there aint no way your arguing brimstone cant designate its own targets lmao, what are you even doing here at this point mate. I cant even attempt to defend you with this one bud.

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Don’t even bother. He’s just trolling at this point.

I’m fairly certain he’d even try and argue that the typhoon wasn’t even able to take off at this point

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Thats like saying CR2 isnt bad because I destroyed 3 tanks with it.
You are obviously a better pilot than the players you ended up facing at the end.

The FM can be simultaneously good and underperforming.

I’ve had no issues fighting in it, but it does feels sluggish at times. (I want to say the issue is in the aircrafts acceleration, feels weird) Thankfully absolute FM performance is rarely relevant in the current meta, which is why for me things like the radar hold much higher priority

tbf the su30 isnt the best dogfighter (without missiles), f18 is good but lacks TWR and iam not sure about the J10 never played it, all i know about it is that it has the GsH-23 which isnt ideal imo

Are there people that actually have like a horrendous k/d in the eurofighter?
I feel like it’s still a plane that can carry an average player to a kd of 2 with relative ease.

Even nerfed the ef is still the best at notch-fire-notch maneuvers, and a lot of times people just expect their missile to hit only to be blindsided that you notched and are sending a missile back.

The problem with that is the rivals to Typhoon have been buffed or knew additions have been added.
When Typhoon was originally added you could easily get several kills with a 120.
I haven’t played many games in Air RB after nerfs but from what I could tell the 120s were easier to defeat likely due to players learning to listen to the RWR.

Most kills were F/A-18 premiums and Su-33s.

There are several core weaknesses that you have to work around but when you do, it works well. Like the clunkyness of the radar and the weak nature of the BOL. You also have to adapt a playstyle that actually suites the weak HOBS nature of Aim-9M and Aim-120.

It also took me a long time to just adjust my playstyle to one that suites the typhoon. I was so use to mud moving or playing defensively from aircraft like the F3 that basic things like flying at any altitude other than 100ft took massive conscious effort.

Once I adjusted for that, I started doing well.

But still frustrating some of the weirdness the typhoons FM has, like it seems to take a week to accelerate at times and it’s largely random (or at least that is what it felt like)

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The next iteration, JAGM-MR, uses tri-mode IIR, MMW, and SAL seeker though. So IR is still useful, and has its advantages

There is talk of that, but considering we don’t have JAGM in service yet. I deduce it really isn’t necessary or a requirement

Are you from UK?

I am, and it appears the USMC has JAGM on their AH-1Zs

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