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ah yes, due to collective stupidity the laws of physics do not apply to eurocanards (or anything with canards in game)
Does it really specify data about typhoon’s performance both ITR & STR? Either way typhoon is underperforming by quite a margin in game compared to other aircrafts, e.g radar, HMD lock, engine performance at subsonic speeds etc. They didn’t even bother giving the purple tint for the hud
Fits so well, I do wish the Spanish camo is in game I love the colour
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yes, the typhoons flight model in game is based on these requirements and the assumption that the plane met them
The document pre-dates the EJ200 engines, with the consortium that was formed leading to the EJ200 only being formed back in 1986 from what I can find.
ITR has been bug reported and accepted as underperforming:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/75Meg57oyRDW
STR was also bug reported, with the devs responding the in-game EFT is actually performing below ESR-D requirements, but are considering it “close enough”
So no, its not overperforming, its still underperforming the numbers in that document.
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As stated above, the in-game typhoon underperforms the requirements to some degree, with the devs considering them “close enough”.
where are the performance figures for the one with the EJ200 engines then
Pretty sure there aren’t any that are public. That being said, we know the EFT at the very least met (likely exceeded) all requirements barring landing distance:
So saying the EFT is overperforming is wrong. Its underperforming by at least a little, possibly a lot.
Out of curiosity what did they want the landing distance to be, if they didn’t believe it was achievable with the conditions they were working with?
No clue, I have limited access to the documents others have used to bug report stuff.
yes i said the fm is based on the assumption that the plane met all requirements, and it performs up to said requirements.
one question what makes you think it “likely exceeded”, were you involved in the development of the ef program at all, know anyone who has been involved, ever flown one irl perhaps, have been told this by someone who flew it irl?, do you have any form of source for that claim or do you just THINK it exceeded the requirements, are you just making baseless claims based off of vibes perhaps?
Landing distance was to be 700 m. It was only not met “in the most adverse conditions”
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In game it falls short of a couple of them.
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it falls short of them within the margin of error that gaijin deems acceptable, this margin is the same as every other aircraft in the game.
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IIRC Gaijin have denied bug reports before when the aircraft is within 5% of the expected value. Last time someone posted in game testing STR at Sea Level fell short by ~7.5% and STR at 10,000 ft dry power fell short by ~13%, so those two are outside Gaijin’s tolerance.
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It is generally good practice to exceed design requirements. The majority of vehicles predicted to meet their requirements during development exceed some if not all of them. I’m almost willing to guarantee somewhere exists a source saying those initial requirements were at least in part exceeded too.
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It literally doesnt tho, the devs said so themselves that it performs “close to” ESR-D specs.
Oh that ones super easy to answer.
If you actually bothered to read the ESR-D document, the EFA with its 82kN engines was within no more than 1.66 deg/s of the ESR-D specs, usually underperforming by less than 1deg/s, and actually already exceeded all the acceleration requirements quite substantially. Tack on a ~9% thrust increase and its not a stretch to assume it exceeded the reqs.
Sooooooo you admit you were lying about it overperforming then?
so what im hearing is that you think the plane is underperforming by a mystery amount and it should be buffed to a set of mystery values which will somehow make it more realistic? i asked if you had the docs for the aircraft with the ej200 engines and you didnt say, we do not know how much the ej200 effected performance it is reasonable to assume that it only met the requirements.
Nope, maybe stop lying for a sec and read stuff properly. All I said was that you are wrong in stating that it is overperforming (the gaijin devs themselves state its underperforming), and that its possible its overperforming by a significant amount. I never said it should be buffed to a random figure above the minimum stated requirement.
They arent going to be only meeting requirements if they were already just about meeting requirements when they had less thrust, stop being dumb.
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when in this thread did i say it was over performing? please enlighten me