And again, why should that prevent it from being buffed to realistic levels?
Since when does the game artifically nerf aircraft for just being better than others?
lets remove the TVC from the MICA and R-73 because other missiles cant turn that hard
Lets remove 2x AIm-120s from the F-15E because the average is 4-6. Same for the R-77-1s from the SU-30,
etc etc
Why we talking about guns only dogfights when the Su-30 has 14 missiles??
In what world are you going to get a pistols at dawn type duel. Even in ground battles the gun fight never happens as you get sniped by a SAM.
I prefer useable metrics…Radar, flight performance and weapon systems…In that regard Typhoon only has flight performance.
we were disusing flight performace, i thought it relevant to bring up a comparison where flight performance is primary factor affecting outcome, apparently this is not the case.
This is what happens when you try to gunfight…
What can a Typhoon which is on par with Gripen in a dogfight do against these missiles?
Not my video…taken to illustrate a point.
Flight performance, in one metric yes in WW2 thats fine im faster and can turn better.
In top tier it isnt as simple :(
from all of the documents ive seen the ef is not under performing in any performance metric, would love to know how exactly its under performing and what sources you have for this claim.
G overload limiter
ITR and STR
Acceleration and supercruise are the main ones
what documents have you been reading?
Lol, dare to show what pages?
People have documents here that show even the prototype EF with weaker engines performs better than the EF we have currently in game. So yes it’s underperforming
ah yes, due to collective stupidity the laws of physics do not apply to eurocanards (or anything with canards in game)
Does it really specify data about typhoon’s performance both ITR & STR? Either way typhoon is underperforming by quite a margin in game compared to other aircrafts, e.g radar, HMD lock, engine performance at subsonic speeds etc. They didn’t even bother giving the purple tint for the hud
Fits so well, I do wish the Spanish camo is in game I love the colour
yes, the typhoons flight model in game is based on these requirements and the assumption that the plane met them
The document pre-dates the EJ200 engines, with the consortium that was formed leading to the EJ200 only being formed back in 1986 from what I can find.
ITR has been bug reported and accepted as underperforming:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/75Meg57oyRDW
STR was also bug reported, with the devs responding the in-game EFT is actually performing below ESR-D requirements, but are considering it “close enough”
So no, its not overperforming, its still underperforming the numbers in that document.
As stated above, the in-game typhoon underperforms the requirements to some degree, with the devs considering them “close enough”.
where are the performance figures for the one with the EJ200 engines then
