Since when has that ever prevented any other nation from getting their IRL performance? F-16s dominated for well over a year and still got buffs.
Also, its got a barely usable radar, massively nerfed A2G loadout, missing a ton of features. Ontop of the FM underperforming notably.
Currently the best jet in the game right now is the Rafale. So if anything, the Rafale should get 0 buffs or fixes by that logic.
first of all the f16 was not the best plane in the game by nearly as much of a margin, infact the mig29 was able to beat the block 15 and it was a close fight between it and the block 10. secondly the time frame that the f16c WAS dominant in air rb was between sept 19 and dec 14th of 2023. Also i don’t think buffing whatever the current best plane happens is ever going to be a good thing as it just continues the unhealthy cycle of powercreep, i was against the f16 buffs at the time too.
also the whole “barely usable radar” claim is laughable, its radar is pretty much equal to everything that isnt the rafale/su30/su34. just because it is not the best radar in the game dose not make it unusable
finally, i agree with your last point, the rafale should not be receiving any buffs and should infact be nerfed in its current state.
F-15E, Su-30SM and rafale are all perfectly capable of fighting a Typhoon. The gap is no larger than the difference between F-16, Mig-29 or Gripen was before.
Its the second weakest radar at top tier currently. Far weaker than the F-18, F-15, F-16, Gripen, etc. The only radar its beats is the Su-27 and only barely.
It literally cannot see targets 90% of the time meaning TWS is litereally unusable quite often and the normal tactic in ARB is to just rely on HMD or ACM to hard lock the radar. Not an option if you play ASB
Given the fact the CAPTOR-M is a heavily upgraded version of the Blue Vixen radar, which has none of the current issues the CAPTOR-M has in game. it is without a shadow of a doubt, broken. You may not believe that is the case, But that does not change the fact. It is underperforming considerably when compared to any other standard mechanical scan radar.
It is not unusable because its not the “meta” radar. its unusable because it is litereally unusable as a radar most of the time
Finally the CAPTOR-M IS NOT a “standard” mechanical scan radar and has features and capabilities more commonly associated with PESA/AESA scan radars such as Priority track that allows for up to 20 air or ground targets to be continiously updated anywhere within the radars FoV (and not just the current scan area). There is a reason why CAPTOR-M is considered hte best m-scan radar in the world that outperformed many early PESA and AESA radars and why the EuroConsortium didnt replace the CAPTOR-M when it code have done with AESA way back in 2008
“F-15E, Su-30SM and rafale are all perfectly capable of fighting a Typhoon” in air rb sure, but i was referring to a guns only dogfight, if we want to talk about air rb the mig29 was far better than the f16 at the time.
also yeah and i saw the gripen performance gap as an issue too, i am not in favor of one plane being significantly better than all others in terms of flight performance
and again about the radar, i have no clue what you are talking about. it is not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is
And that in my opinion is totally irrelevant to the game.
By that logic. The Tornado F3 should get its ASRAAMs and Aim-120C5s because it cant win a gunfight against anything between 12.0 and 14.0
Well, then ask others. @Dontkev and @MythicPi have both experienced similar issues with the radar
There literally isnt a single official gamemode in WT in which the EFT is present and “Gu7ns only dogfights” are the primary metric of an aircrafts performance, this is such a bad argument its not even funny.
It REALLY is. Its easily the worst 14.0 radar in-game, and its in the same performance ballpark is the universally agreed upon “worst” top tier radar, the NOO1. Most jets at 13.0 have better radars than the current CAPTOR-M.
“And that in my opinion is totally irrelevant to the game.”
if thats the case then why dose it matter if its lacking its supposed irl flight performance
Because it is relevant with wise to basic things like being able to accelerate or change directions for defeating missiles and in an actual dogfight, things like the Rafale’s HMD + AESA + Magic II + MICA close the gap an aircraft might in raw performance alone.
it has some of the best acceleration and performance at high alt after the f15e what are you talking about? it also has very strong aoa which makes dodging missiles much easier.
as i said previously i am in support of nerfing the rafale
And again, why should that prevent it from being buffed to realistic levels?
Since when does the game artifically nerf aircraft for just being better than others?
lets remove the TVC from the MICA and R-73 because other missiles cant turn that hard
Lets remove 2x AIm-120s from the F-15E because the average is 4-6. Same for the R-77-1s from the SU-30,
etc etc
Why we talking about guns only dogfights when the Su-30 has 14 missiles??
In what world are you going to get a pistols at dawn type duel. Even in ground battles the gun fight never happens as you get sniped by a SAM.
I prefer useable metrics…Radar, flight performance and weapon systems…In that regard Typhoon only has flight performance.
we were disusing flight performace, i thought it relevant to bring up a comparison where flight performance is primary factor affecting outcome, apparently this is not the case.
This is what happens when you try to gunfight…
What can a Typhoon which is on par with Gripen in a dogfight do against these missiles?
Not my video…taken to illustrate a point.
Flight performance, in one metric yes in WW2 thats fine im faster and can turn better.
In top tier it isnt as simple :(
from all of the documents ive seen the ef is not under performing in any performance metric, would love to know how exactly its under performing and what sources you have for this claim.
G overload limiter
ITR and STR
Acceleration and supercruise are the main ones
what documents have you been reading?
Lol, dare to show what pages?
