Here’s my trial. I made somewhat equivalent loadout with what you have on the pic.
It peaks at 10g, 9g sustained.
UPD: On your screenshots drag seems a bit odd. Idk how it is in the game, but embedded pylons are supposed to have less drag right? So how does having 2 more AMRAAMs + three times bigger drag profile for AASM pylon + 2 underfuselage pylons ocupied (assuming that targeting pod has a drag profile) only producing aroung 1000kg more drag?
Pylons don’t have mass or drag in War Thunder.
No, I mean ordinance itself, it’s like 3 of them in a row, that supposed to have more drag right? Or do they have fixed amount for it? Like one of their favorite boolean values, lol. (If (pylon>0) induce_drag =1;)
Offtopic.
Today I tried playing typhoon in ARB using different playstyles. What I figured is that I can’t make it work whatsoever. Don’t get me wrong - I’m getting kills, 2-3 per usual, the problem being that I’m struggling to survive/preserve ordinance for the late game. They’re forcing the BVR meta on everyone and it’s quite unpleasant on it’s own. I have a last thing to try - BVR while picking targets one by one. Which kinda defeats the purpose of TWS + sounds and feels boring as hell. I miss IR meta so much… And no, I wasn’t a gorilla grippen player, I was playing Mig-29G at the time and damn I liked it a lot. Especially the lock + ET trick.
Oh, all weapons have fixed drag regardless of mounting position to my knowledge.
F18 dogfights better than Eurofighter
Should we ask @Gunjob?
Though my thoughts about that nerf are the same - I kinda changed my stance on how much I care.
Top tier is a boring mess right now, both ARB and GRB. While top ARB is just not for me as I figured - top GRB feels like gaijin decided to bite more than they can digest. Netcode issues, render issues, sticks’n’bandaids for balance. (and soviet pantsir+su-34+su-30) combo + another thousand of little things made it boring and less skill dependent. Or should I say more random?
F-18 is a piece of garbage. Even me - the denier admit it. I just had 5+ encounters with them. Here’s my guide on how to dogfight F-18 and win:
1)Go head-on while defending
2)No success? - Disengage
3)F-18 is trying to turn and shoot you? Well you’re already 2 states away, what he’s gonna do? Chase you? Let’s wish him good luck with that.
4)There’s also a chance that he’ll just fall out of the sky on his own, lol.
What’s really scary - that is su-30. 12xAIM-120A with 50g pull? Oh hell no. If he’s also flying low to the ground - double hell no. Mind you he also can carry R-73/R-27ER/ET. He can’t catch you, but ET can. Unlike anemic AIM-9M’s that F-18 has
I know the EFT has its problems, but that is pure cope.
The F18 (and the SU30SM for that matter), are trash (in dogfights) against any other plane that has at least 2 brain cells connecting.
It’s even worse for the F18 with its slow top speed (can’t catch you if you decide to break and flee), and it’s missile kit is useless in dogfights (while you might have to actually think a bit more and pre flare some r73s with the SM).
The Rafale (and I’d guess the eft to since they are similar in flight performance at lower speeds) can sit on the back of those 2 jets without 2 circles and there’s nothing they can do about it, aside from trying some dodgy AOA cobra button and fall out of the sky 80% of the time (the 20% rest you kill them before that).
With the Su-30 you start to fall out even before pressing the button lmao
Nah, su-30 is fine in dogfights due to R-73 and R-77-1. F-18 doesn’t have such luxury.
I want ASRAAM or IRIS-T right now. Just imagine the funny of passing su-30/F-18 on full speed and leaving them dogfighting a missile you just pulled out of your ass, while you zoom away.
Su-30 in like an orbiting object : constantly falling
i’ll see myself out
to get back on topic, 9G on EF is indeed rough. If true that means the overload on this plane is almost as trash as manpads
Doing Brimstone runs are awful now since you can no longer dodge Panstir missiles with max 9g overload
This is why (at least in GSB) I generally just run PW4s as my main A2G weapon and just drop them from 30-40k ft. I CBA to deal with the low alt brimstone faffing you have to do otherwise.
Maybe running a few Brimstones just for dealing with helis
F-18 has the 3rd best airframe for subsonic flight and accelerates as fast as the fast bois to mach 1.
People are underestimating the F-18, and I suspect it’s cause people aren’t managing their energy correctly as it can pull 11Gs with ease.
Either way, Typhoon remains strongest.
Maps are probably also too small. Aircraft like the EFT and F-15E can get high and fast quicker.
If maps were bigger with a little transit time. F-18 would be able to rain fire down onto targets.
Maps need a good doubling in size if not more imo. 126x126km already feels cramped with current missiles.
so the mws…
great in test drive
just straight up does not work in battles
They’ve felt a little cramped with the Tornado F3 firing Skyslugs.
We’ve needed at least 180x180 maps for the last 2 years.
I think we are well in truly in need of at least 256x256 maps these days
Well there are two meta playstyles right now: Look down, which is what the F-15C/E, J-11B, and Typhoons have access to more than anyone else.
And look-up which is what everyone does particularly well.
Both are equally threatening from my experience as well as the evidence shown in video form so far.
@MythicPi
No one’s fighting at 12,000 meters for even 80x80km combat zones to be missile concerning.
