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So according to MiG_23M definition of supercruise, only Concorde, F-22 and F-23 are/were supercruisers. The rest are crossed out from supercruisers. Including Rafale.
It’s quite funny, considering the generally accepted meaning of supercruise is simply the ability to passed by the sound barrier without using an afterburner. There’s no mention of efficiency or throttle position.
But who am I to understand anything, right?)))
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That’s not the accepted definition of supercruise.
Stop trying to argue it as something it isn’t by misrepresenting statements by putting your own spin on it and attempting to change the definition.
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I would hazard the “generally accepted” term is just the misconception wrought by the EuroCanards all claiming supercruise - which was usually a marketing term applied to the fighters when put up for export. The F-22 referred to the term first but did not elaborate, likely because of the secretive nature whilst still wanting to “flex”. It is after all propaganda.
Your first version of that post was correct, it is not the widely accepted definition of supercruise. As I said, it is the most in-line with the original term and the best use-case on a fighter.
I stopped arguing the fact that the Eurofighter can supercruise (by their own definition) over a thousand posts ago, just because staff is posting memes and breaking their own guidelines does not mean you can continue to slander me and throw a hissy fit after every valid point I make.
The definition of supercruise is very well established. You are more than welcome to form your own definition of that, however this topic has had more than enough off topic discussion of it here.
As of this point moving forward, any further posts derailing the topic on this subject will be removed. The core fundamental point that has been debated and concluded is the Typhoon can indeed super cruise and does so in game.
If you wish to discuss your opinion on supercruise further with specific users, you can do so via PM.
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I suppose this means that, like the Eurofighter, the F-18 will be supercruising in-game?
320 miles in 20 minutes would imply 1.2 mach average speed… loitering there for an hour would imply 960 miles of supercruise range which to my knowledge exceeds that of the F-22 and Eurofighter considerably :)
thank you smin
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This is a Wikipedia example formed sentence to explain the definition in context. Not a valid source of any aircrafts flight performance.
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Right, and that particular quote is unsourced. I could edit it at any time and use this one but it would not apply to the Eurofighter. The Eurofighter is stated as being capable by its’ manufacture and I did not dispute that it is capable of meeting the errant definition. Do you have a single source from any of the Eurofighter partners explaining “their” definition of supercruise or is wiki all there is?
I hope this isn’t going against your request to avoid this topic but having the consortiums’ definition would clear things up definitively.
Is it against forum rules to advocate to block his deaf self? Seriously, because he’s been bringing this entire forum down with his goal moving and yammering I think it should be time everyone just blocks him and pretends he doesn’t exist.
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As I mentioned above, you are welcome to retain your personal interpretation or definition of the term, however this is the universally and widely accepted meaning.
The matter has been answered and concluded very clearly. Please consider this as a final warning at this stage. It will not be discussed further here.
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I made my profile public upon request so that people may do that. I would still like to see if Eurofighter GMBH has a public explanation of what they think the term means.
Pls, can we just gave free timeouts for people who mention from now on “Sensor Fusion” or “Supercruise”?
Even the USAF aren’t consistent with their definition of supercruise:
Supercruise is reaching supersonic flight without using the engine’s afterburner.
There really doesn’t seem to be any agreed upon standard for what supercruise means.
And frankly, as far as War Thunder is concerned, it is a pointless discussion.
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Dontkev has been banned from the chat
One dude was claiming the typhoon was unable to do that, we’ve spent the last month proving otherwise.
Gaijin and he believes it all to be marketing lies
Thats why I said from now on xD
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