Pls, can we just gave free timeouts for people who mention from now on “Sensor Fusion” or “Supercruise”?
Even the USAF aren’t consistent with their definition of supercruise:
Supercruise is reaching supersonic flight without using the engine’s afterburner.
There really doesn’t seem to be any agreed upon standard for what supercruise means.
And frankly, as far as War Thunder is concerned, it is a pointless discussion.
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Dontkev has been banned from the chat
One dude was claiming the typhoon was unable to do that, we’ve spent the last month proving otherwise.
Gaijin and he believes it all to be marketing lies
Thats why I said from now on xD
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I did not discuss the definition, I asked for information from Flame.
The contents of you and some others posts’ are not coinciding with the guidelines by comparison;
Somehow this makes me the issue.
I inquired for information pertaining to the Eurofighter in a friendly way and the post was removed for “off topic” whether this was from Smin or from a mass of flags from you and others is beyond me.
I would argue that the constant memes and posts such as the last three from you with zero Eurofighter content are the main issue at hand here.
Since my post was removed I’ll ask @Flame2512 again, does Eurofighter have a definition for it or is it just mentioned off-hand? There need not be an argument if they have their own definition. I am not arguing what the definition is in this post, so it isn’t breaking the request set by Smin to not discuss it.
Oh mighty ban hammer* - please smite the unbeliever.
Blessed be thy name. Moderator of the War Thunder Forums. Amen.
*Although technically by some definitions - would we be talking a hammer or a mallet. Hmmm…
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Save some for the rest of us
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For the lord knows how many times, Supercruise just means being supersonic capable from dry thrust in level flight.
End of discussion on this, any more is just a pisstake and you know it
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Don’t feed the troll
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I have not found any information on what Eurofighter’s specific definition of “supercruise” is.
If we assume the bare minimum of “able to maintain flight at this speed, for some undefined length of time, without using afterburner” then that still leaves us with two possibilities:
- Eurofighter is underperforming in game (it is impossible to maintain Mach 1.5 for any length of time at 100% throttle).
- Eurofighter GmbH is outright lying and any form of sustained flight at Mach 1.5 is not possible without afterburner.
The exact definition of supercruise is irrelevant to either point. If option 1 is true then the Eurofighter is underperforming however you define supercruise; and if you want to make the case that it can fly at Mach 1.5 without afterburner but inefficiently then that’s fine but it is still going to be more efficient than flying with afterburner so would be a net improvement compared to what we currently have. If you believe option 2 is true then it doesn’t matter how you define supercruise because it’s all a lie anyway.
So as I said arguing pedantics on the meaning of the word is a pointless discussion.
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As I said before my post was removed, a specific definition from Eurofighter could provide us more insight and data that could be used to verify the in-game model with what is being said.
Example, they say 1.5 is the speed with the throttle on a cruise setting. If that is the case we would know the maximum dry thrust speed is higher than 1.5 and that it would need an increase in performance in the game.
If 1.5 is the maximum thrust top speed we know the thrust or drag is incorrect in the game and needs modified for whatever condition that is in.
Either way, the propaganda claims are not being taken at face value by Gaijin for the Eurofighter and so they should not be taken at face value for other fighters either.
and if that is what they are assuming, it just muddies bug reporting for all future, because if Primary sources can be rejected because the developers dont beleive that certain sources are true without any solid evidence then how can we trust anything will be modeled correctly in the future and how many other aircraft were buffed under similar circumstances
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Again why do you believe the claims made by Lockheed but not Eurofighter GmbH?
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