actually:
Looks like the graphic needs updating. And as I said it wouldn’t surprise me to see Germany getting them.
Good to know that we tested it on the Tornados XD.
That document doesn’t say that Germany Is getting them. By the way, I think they could be added to any nation with an EFA since I don’t think they required any modification in order to be operated.
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Germany did Britecloud 218 tests(and is in talks for acquiring them as of 2021)…
also, the leonardo website states
“BriteCloud, which does not require integration, is a cost-effective way to equip such assets with latest-generation jamming capabilities.”
the 218 is for US-style square/rectangular countermeasure slots such as those found in the f-18, f-15, f-16, c-17, c-130, a-400m, etc, etc, etc.like AN/ALE-47
2"x1"x8"
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Depending on the specific form factor of the dispenser in question (including any optional podded dispensers), it would probably have commonality with at least one of the US / NATO spec Countermeasure cartridge families. So should at very least be compatible with or have similar counterparts to some of the advanced developments that we know about.
For example there are Covert Flares, that lack / minimize the visual report of activation, so don’t provide it as a cue that they are actively dispensing, and so significantly more effective when used to preemptively defend against a threat (e.g. M211, MJU-50 & -51).
Another would be Advanced Kinematic Flares like the MJU-47, which use exhaust gasses to propel themselves and retain more velocity after being dispensed to defeat some types of Spatial IRCCM filters.
That’s the form factor of the MJU-13 Flare Magazine, so you get 15 of them per modular “ALE-4x” dispenser, and they can be very widely mounted on basically everything that flew after ~1980 bar early F/A-18’s, that still used the ALE-39, (could probably backport it anyway via the ALE-37 pod).
ah found what i was remembering
What kind of A2G weapons does the Block 5 have?
gbus only
Not sure why we are getting the Block 2 then. Maybe we should have both in the game. The Block 2 can be added underneath the Tornado
the leak didnt say which eurofighter version
besides that leaks arent always quite true which version it is because of changed propject names or guessing from modell
as of right now we arent aware which version we are realy getting for euros and rafales
The 55mm flares being talked about here have no relation to US Countermeasure designs. It’s the Swedish cartridge standard originally for the BOZ pod, carried forwards to the Typhoon because they’re better flares than the 218 standard.
I might be miss remembering from when I worked at Chemring, but the 55mm carts have multiple flares stacked internally fired off individually, so each tube has 2-3 flares in it.
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The Typhoon uses a spectrally matched decoy to defeat IRCCM missiles:
There’s also a non-spectral version which has over twice the explosive content:
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The Tornado flares were double packed, but it seems the Typhoon cartridges are shorter (200 mm vs 375 mm) and only contain a single flare (see datasheets in my last comment).
Tornado flare datasheets:
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Ah yes, the typical British Government failure to support home industry. Warton has been like that for some time, since it doesn’t really have any refurb work to do either anymore (courtesy of Nimrod going out of service and no MRA.4, no more Tornado work, etc)
“currently” does this apply to early planes or to all Typhoons in general?
Which pylons are occupied in the options you proposed?
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If only pylons 3,4,10 and 11 would be allowed to use MRAAMs (by Gaijin)…
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Ah cool, thanks for the correction, it’s been a “couple” of years since I worked there lmao
best job to quit lmao
Remember there are two generations of those dispensers: The original Cobham ones that all Typhoon customers have, and the newer Saab “Smart Dispenser System” that was ordered for the RAF in 2018, and seems to be for programming Britecloud cartridges
skyflash and aspide are a no as captor was never fitted with CW illuminators.
techincally you can mount the MFRL rail for MRAAM and SRAAM on 2,3,4,10,11, and 12.
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