What kind of A2G weapons does the Block 5 have?
gbus only
Not sure why we are getting the Block 2 then. Maybe we should have both in the game. The Block 2 can be added underneath the Tornado
the leak didnt say which eurofighter version
besides that leaks arent always quite true which version it is because of changed propject names or guessing from modell
as of right now we arent aware which version we are realy getting for euros and rafales
The 55mm flares being talked about here have no relation to US Countermeasure designs. It’s the Swedish cartridge standard originally for the BOZ pod, carried forwards to the Typhoon because they’re better flares than the 218 standard.
I might be miss remembering from when I worked at Chemring, but the 55mm carts have multiple flares stacked internally fired off individually, so each tube has 2-3 flares in it.
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The Typhoon uses a spectrally matched decoy to defeat IRCCM missiles:
There’s also a non-spectral version which has over twice the explosive content:
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The Tornado flares were double packed, but it seems the Typhoon cartridges are shorter (200 mm vs 375 mm) and only contain a single flare (see datasheets in my last comment).
Tornado flare datasheets:
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Ah yes, the typical British Government failure to support home industry. Warton has been like that for some time, since it doesn’t really have any refurb work to do either anymore (courtesy of Nimrod going out of service and no MRA.4, no more Tornado work, etc)
“currently” does this apply to early planes or to all Typhoons in general?
Which pylons are occupied in the options you proposed?
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If only pylons 3,4,10 and 11 would be allowed to use MRAAMs (by Gaijin)…
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Ah cool, thanks for the correction, it’s been a “couple” of years since I worked there lmao
best job to quit lmao
Remember there are two generations of those dispensers: The original Cobham ones that all Typhoon customers have, and the newer Saab “Smart Dispenser System” that was ordered for the RAF in 2018, and seems to be for programming Britecloud cartridges
skyflash and aspide are a no as captor was never fitted with CW illuminators.
techincally you can mount the MFRL rail for MRAAM and SRAAM on 2,3,4,10,11, and 12.
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3 and 11? Aren’t 3 and 11 pylons under the droptank?
Yeah, but with supercruise and a centre tank i think you’d be able to get by with just the one tank rather than 2 or 3
Disgusting.
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they are pretty rivalled in MAWS and RWR, ik US has towed decoys and stuff like teh F-22 which should come with later typhoons like T3 would have really powerful EW capabilities.
US AESA radars and most AESA radars to boot will be harder to fool with stuff like that as well so they might have some trouble forcing a dogfight. and with all those extra things will it even be as effective in a dogfight?
I meant rivalled in dogfight performance, as far as i’m concerned its going to beat everything up until the F-22 if they add it according to the real stats.
No American 4.5th gen has an internal towed jammer they must sacrifice a hardpoint instead, the F-35 has an internal one made by the same British company that makes the Eurofighter ones.
As for MAWS it’s still top of the ring, virtually no US aircraft have MAWS, for example the EX lacks it (but retains the blisters) Eurofighter has PIMAWS which is UV+IR in addition to 3 AESA MAWS antennae, I’m not an RWR guy so I don’t know about that besides Eurofighter’s sensor fusion being very good, probably up there with F-35. I don’t think they’ll model that though.
AMRAAM’s don’t have AESA seekers so they can be fooled, nothing until AIM-120D has datalink so its not about fooling the aircraft’s radar but about fooling he missile seeker. And yes the EFT will be effective in a dogfight across its entire loadout range unless you are carrying like 3 fuel tanks.
I also don’t think the Typhoon should fight F-22’s at all. There is a reason the F-22 project was twice as expensive to develop, as such only 5th gen’s should fight other 5th gens. The US can have the EX, they can even give it the MAWS it doesn’t use and the 12 AMRAAM’s.
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iirc they can add the other advanced eagles that did have MAWS to USA since they are all American designed and made after all, and i think the air force might give teh EX a MAWS.
as for RWR the F-22, and in turn F-35 have insanely good RWR, better than anything else ive ever heard of. I also very very very highly doubt the existence of AESA MAWS antennas. UV and IR exist and are proven, but i feel like AESA would be needlessly expensive when missiles are more than hot enough to be detected with the former methods.
F-22 should fight eurofighter as that is its contemporary, for early F-22 a T2 or 3 would be fair but for the later F-22 a T-4 or late T-3 would be more reasonable.
pretty sure EX can carry 16 with the quad racks on the wings too.
They could add the other advanced eagles if they wanted to it would be good but the better option is to just use the theoretically possible argument and add the MAWS, its UV anyway so of limited use, and I fully expect Israel to get their F-15IA when it gets delivered.
Both are made by BAE, who also happen to be the same British company who helped develop the Eurofighters RWR.
Phased generally means electronically scanned, making it AESA or PESA, Eurofighter nations skipped PESA.
For UV this isn’t true after the motor burns out, you want consistent detection across the missiles entire flight of the missile otherwise once it had launched, you are virtually blind until it goes active and fully blind if it has 2-way datalink, hence MAWS generally being radar and in this case, AESA-based.
IR can still do it through a sufficiently large system such as PIRATE based on the skin friction, but that’s a lot of kit and still probably just worse than AESA, and its only a secondary role of PIRATE, UV cannot detect an aircraft after it’s motor burns out.
The EX is a Eurofighter contemporary, the F-22 is in its own class and should be represented as such. As I said, theres a reason the programme cost twice as much, and I don’t want to see anyone using introduction dates as an excuse otherwise you’d have the Yak-3u fighting the Meteor MK.4F, or the J-7E fighting the F-15E.
The EX cannot employ missiles used on quad-racks, they are ferry-only due to the missile’s characteristics when dropped, the maximum employable number (the maximum number the EX can actually carry and use) is 12, if you were to take a quad rack i believe you would reduce that to 4.
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