Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

su30 got buffs?

did i miss something?

It got things like the Tinted HUD and some changes to its radar right?

i think the game would be improved significantly if gaijin actually hated britian and put a 10% debuff on everything in the tree

Happy to report, they already do, our vehicles average 0.3 BR higher than everyone else

i wouldnt really call that a buff
and if we do that then i have wo tell you how nerfed the Su-30 3d model is

i mean the engine performances are like the exact same in game so it wouldnt really change anything anyways

Sometimes their stated reason is different from their actual (internal) reasoning

It might be due to Tornado GR.1 having access to PGM-500/2000

Then it should be given a higher GRB rating not an engine nerf and it had the engine nerf long before PGMs were reported or recieved.

Also the same logic should then apply to the ASSTA1’s JDAMs

I do agree that Tornadoes with their horrible FM, can certainly use the best engine they can get …

I’m just saying, what devs say =/= what they really think
They just say what they feel would be more acceptable to the player base (Instead of their actual reasoning) …

Though, I can not rule the “devs hate Britain” theory out either :)

I’m not debating that. I’m just saying that they definitely used Blue Vixen as the base code. That’s been subject of a few theories being thrown around here. I’m just confused on how they made a really good radar into the Craptor-M.

I still don’t understand why Soviet top-tier missiles on their attack aircraft work on a fire-and-forget principle, while Brimstone missiles on the EF-2000 require laser guidance. In reality, Brimstones operate on a fire-and-forget basis! Why is it like this? Just give us six missiles but with proper guidance.

Its because of how the FnF works within the Brimstones and Gaijin total refusal to compromise in this regard and incidence that Brimstone must be properly modeled or not at all. (but this doesnt apply in many other areas of the game)

At this moment in time, with their current refusal to even consider modeling MMW. We should at least get the Brimstone variant the Typhoons actually used, the Brimstone 2

Well isn’t that what you are trying to do anyway

Loaded with spite

Doesn’t it seem like there’s a one-sided love for certain vehicles in this game from the developers?

Wait until you find out that KH-38MT never existed and was just a mockup

There would be no counter, but KH-38MT you can smoke. Brimstone you can’t hide from even with smoke. Gaijin chose the option to add Brimstone with one mode (SAL) rather than both modes. IRL you’d only ever use SAL brimstone in areas where you require target verification for example counter insurgency. Gaijin has represented that, the mode does exist and is historical, but its always in tandem with the ability to switch to MMW on the fly, almost like the Vikhr missiles on the KA-52 being able to switch between SAM and ATGM with the flick of a switch. In a scenario like we see in war thunder you would never use the SAL mode, it would never happen because the SAM’s pose an actual threat to the aircraft.

Unfortunately Gaijin decided to lock the missile to SAL rather than implement an ahistorical IR only mode. I understand it’s more realistic technically. But just as realistically Eurofighter would not be using laser guided brimstones vs SAM’s. It’s a dual mode seeker, and by locking it to one of two optional modes you create just as much of an ahistorical situation by omission. It’s like lying by omission.

IMO they could have best perhaps locked us to 6 IR guided brimstones as an interim. Particularly with all the KH-38 stuff going on I think it’s a bit all over the place. But I do 100% agree that MMW was too powerful. I just think their solution was not quite ideal.

I could see the blowback if they added a straight up fake IR mode too though on the other side of this argument.

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or for engaging targets without a clear defined signature, like a building or infantry

Even just SAL-Only Brimstone 2s combined with GPS+SAL Spear-3s would be far better than the current Brimstone 1 nonsense we have to deal with on the Typhoon

Easy fix is adding chaff smokes (which exist)

trying to do what exactly? i have not made a single bug report and i have zero control over any balancing decisions.

We know who you are in bed with