I think this is about the crux of the issue with the EF2K personally. The position it excels in is also the position that is most difficult to fly in due to… Something or other that Gaijin can’t really explain that well to us.
Probably only a month and a half until NG missiles, though. Doubt it’ll be misery for that long.
Then we have to see what they consider a marketing lie about the Meteor
Honestly, given it’d be the best of its class (unless they start adding AIM-260 etc…) I don’t think it’d be anything but semantics about marketing lies. Especially given it’s not like you’re going to be engaging most targets at its maximum range as we have no L16.
No, but I can see them call the 100km LSZ a marketing lie and it be kinematically defeatable at similar ranges to D3s
We’ll see, I suppose. I’m personally cautiously optimistic given Gaijin’s recent trends of at least trying to listen even if they are still misguided at times.
Is that backed up by primary source? There is surely a reason every relevant military power has opted for rocket powered AAM’s
Could be costs? My experience is this cost-saving mindset is heavily present in early prototyping stages when no client money is involved, parts/tools can come from wherever is the cheapest, including Amazon.
The cost thing doesn’t really work when you consider the PL-17 and AIM-424, both are modern clean sheet designs meant for high value targets and both use rocket motors
Yes, multiple
Could still be prohibitively expensive to make the ramjet design work at the required distances those missiles can reach. Too much trade off with the FM?
With the Americans at least. its probably a combination of being cheap and not wanting to start over.
They have a lot of AMRAAMs and the production facilities to make a lot of AMRAAMs. So completely redesigning the weapon to be Ramjet means replacing a lot of previous and well established logistics. Heck, they are probably reusing a lot of parts from earlier AMRAAM models even on the D3s.
Aim-260 probably uses a lot of overlap too
Just look at the Aim-9X, reuses the 9M motor, and that was one of the leading reasons they switched to the 9X from the ASRAAM.
Meanwhile, A ramjet missile was in develop for the Typhoon for longer than the Typhoon was in development. The designed requirements for what the what its main MRAAM would be has been around for a while, with earlier developments involving Ramjet versions of the Skyflash. Whilst Meteor was limited to be the same dimensions as the AMRAAM, it was designed from the ground up with 2-3 decades of development to be Ramjet. You cant just swap AMRAAM to ramjet overnight.
So it’s too expensive for the US and China of all nations to field a medium or long range ramjet AAM, but the UK, Germany, and Italy, which aren’t exactly known for spending a lot on the military, have no problems fielding the meteor in numbers?
Not what I’m talking about lol.
Completely new clean sheet design
Too expensive to switch over 40 ish years of logistics of AMRAAM using solid rocket motors to ramjet.
Doesnt mean its being made in new factories using bespoke new tools or processes.
Its probably re-using a LOT of the infastructure built to make AMRAAMs
or maybe they find that the drawbacks of a ramjet powered missile do not out weight the benefits
Maybe, but remember that when US mains are complaining about Meteors outranging D3s by a WIDE margin
heres a quick question, what is the max range of a meteor?
It’s 2 different manufacturers lol. And AMRAAM production is set to continue so how would that work?
US stays low, Eurodelta stays high. Easy
Unknown.
100km LSZ, with 100km in 90 seconds are the main known figures for it.
200+ is the only figure we’ve got for it