Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

The Brimstone doesn’t have an IFF to identify a locked on target as a potential friendly, right? I see a capability hole in the C4I doctrine ^^
But there is an IFF STANAG for the 94 GHz range which the Brimstone seeker uses, so that could be possible.

Their main argument these is that Brimstone cannot be countered by smoke, unlike IIR.

and that would only consider mode 3.

Mode 2 would simply be a case of not pointing the tpod and thus the laser at a teammate in the first place. But apparently that is only a concern for the Brimstone and not say… ANY SAL, TV or IR guided weapon ever added to the game

Non line of sight targeting, firing at enemies without ever being fired at = NOT OP

mmW brimstones lock on after launch & Gaijin refusing to add a multispectral smoke code = OP

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I would really like to know the number of cases where somebody actively defended against an IIR A2G missile with smoke because the player knew it was coming long enough before impact, so the IOG drift let it miss the target ^^
This isn’t even as effective anymore with IR+IOG+GNSS missiles and glide bombs.

and 99% of the time you have absolutely no idea that you’ve been fired at, even less so now they’ve added MITL which allows for LOAL.

Then, even if you know you’ve been fired at, smoke doesnt always work. I’ve been killed dozens of times by IOG weapons going straight through smoke. KH-38MT is notorious for it due to its large warhead size and high speed.

Heck. Doesnt even need to be FnF Weapons. Ive killed plenty through smoke just using the PW4 or other SAL GBUs and guessing where the target is. Likewise been killed loads of time in the Stormer HVM in GSB by Mig-27s through smoke using their KH-25/KH-29s. Actually the latter happens so often, or at least was, that im semi convinced smoke wasnt working correctly at all. Ive definetly had the ability to maintain track and thus SAL on a target through smoke before.

So even that argument is really weak half the time. (and falls apart entirely when they just add multispectral smoke)

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Russia doesn’t have any mmW weaponry, so therefore it won’t ever be implemented

This imo, is the more likely rational behind it

They have, but only on anti-ship missiles as they’re big enough to be seen with a bad radar :D

/joke

They do have an mmW version of kh-38 afaik (probably only in early proposal stage, like a certain another version in the game). Maybe they’re actually afraid of it’s teamkilling capacity?

What happened to nctr

Team killing with Brimstone should not happen, as it would fall under simmilar case as RWR. Irl they are loaded with threat libraries, but as in game both side can use any vehicle, they have more general IFF added in order to compensate for it.

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I just don’t know, they’re missing out on so many good ways to implement Brimstones for the sake of their “assymetric balancing” and plain refuse to elaborate why (giving a sand dry corporate statement isn’t elaboration)

Wouldn’t stop them to “virtually” load a customized threat library at the start of the match as an argument why friendly fire can’t happen.

With multispaa you can’t target friendly. They just want excuses not to implement it

and even then. Even after all that. If it was still a major concern. Just limit the search area of the mode 3. Sure, still allow LOAL, but it would be like firing a GNSS weapon, maybe you’ll get lucky, but most of the time you’ll want to fire at a target before hand, then the missile will just find it if its within a small radius of the IOG target

At the end of the day, GNSS weapons can be lobbed randomly around map and can kill teammates. So… Im not really sure what the issue there would be (Heck a certain nation, IRL, did this not that long ago…)

You can’t fire at them, but your missile can target them just fine.

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This is literally a killer argument that can’t be countered. Multispectral/dipole smoke technology, if I’m not mistaken, isn’t exactly high-tech by today’s standards, and almost all tanks from the 1980s+ can use it. I think the main reason is the lack of similar technology among major nations.

even if its not used by everything. Im sure the same could probably be said about smoke that blocks IR and I think all smoke in-game (thats not ESS) does that even WW2 era smoke