I mean what else can come for European fighters other than their ramjet meteor missile for their r77m/aim-260/pl-15 equivalent?
Germany use the C8 and we could probably also get Ds So we could get that. Though yes, if thsoe are added and they dont add Meteor it would be stupid.
But im personally hoping ASRAAM and IRIS-T come first
That’s the thing, C8/D3 wouldn’t be as good as R-77M and PL-15 because it’s not a dual pulse missile.
The first iterations used the same motor as C5 and with F3R it got a bit more fuel but i don’t think it’s enough to compensate, it would literally be slightly better than C5.
I think we’ll just have to endure honestly or they do a gaijin and give every Aim-120 compatible carrier 260
We should get Meteor if those are added. If they dont… its BS.
Though with the current map sizes and assuming that seekers arent improved… Not a lot is gunna change. Even with Meteor and its 100km LSZ… you probably arent going to be firing that often past 20-30km like you already do with C5s.
I’m really curious how the meta will shift because of the dual pulse nature of the new AAMs, i’d imagine the second pulse would fire either when the missiles own seeker locks on or at a preset range, would make 40+ km shots possible and viable
What does this mean
If im not mistaken, what it means is that the missile has 2 motors. 1 will fire on launch, the other later during flight to recover speed or something
It’s not that it has 2 motors but it can fire twice, the propellant is segmented in such a way that it can be ignited on command, in theory you can have more than 2 pulses, but 2 is most common in AAM.
Not to be confused with what the IRIS and ASRAAM use which is propellant gradients to achieve different thrust curves with time.
It appears there is a bug where I cannot maintain the data link despite the target being displayed on the radar scope. Is this just my imagination?
The presence or absence of DL is displayed as “o+’ ‘’”,as shown in the image below. If the DL is disconnected, it is displayed as “o”.


I prefer BVR gameplay, so I spend a lot of time looking at the radar scope. I often feel that even enemies being tracked in TWS ESA have their data link disconnected for some reason and are displayed as “o”. Should I report this issue?
If proof is actually needed, since TWSESA doesn’t support server replays, you have to constantly run OBS, generate massive recording data, and play the game.

these get funnier every time i check them
Seriously, what did they do to the FM? The EF now struggles in a first-merge (gets outturned because nearly every other fighter plane pulls harder now???) and a rate-fight against a Su-27/30/MiG-29 is a chore if it comes to that because the enemy throws his chance at the first merge. Rollrate feels decreased too for some reason and the strange behavior at high speed turn is still there… Instead of 90° roll and fly a curve it behaves like it’s on a bobsled roller coaster drifting to the side and up. This caused more than one time to gain >100 meters height and slip out of the multipathing which in turn got me killed.
they did nothing
the EF FM didnt change in months
Nothing which got noted in the changelogs, but I can tell you it feels completly different. Things which were easy a few weeks ago are now impossible or extremly difficult (turnfights). The maneuverability changed so drastic that I at first collided with the ground a few times when flying very low because it’s way less snappy to inputs and much more sluggish than it used to be. You can’t follow the terrain as good anymore.
Nothing has changed nothing in the datamines at all
Does asraam have datalink?
Unkown about Blk6, but Blk1 is 99% likely no.
It would be weird if ASRAAM did have datalink since MBDA lists datalink in CAMM, MICA, and other missiles but omits datalink as a feature in the ASRAAM.
So no LOAL capability ? Nvm
