Now wait for the Su35. Let’s see if the eurofighter can win the dogfight
Su-35 is just going to be a worse su-30sm2 in the dogfight.
In sim controls su-30sm2 wins with a very skilled pilot, but with normal arb controls eurofighter wins
I thought su35 is a lighter su27, but with higher thrust, and TVC.
Nah it’s heavier than su-30sm and sm2
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19t empty pretty heavy jet
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Wasn’t that with the ecm pods included?
even if they are included in the 19t figure it wouldnt change much to remove them
if you remove them you would still end up at around 18 - 18.4 tons
Doubt it, knappo site don’t list pods and only r77 and r73 for normal weight without mentioning pods
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So? Being Gaijin. Will be faster than the Typhoon, climb better than the Typhoon and Turn better than the Typhoon?
:P
Su30sm2 does none of that and it’s lighter, so I don’t see how the 35 would perform better than the Eurofighter.
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Typhoon vs Su 35?
I think acceleration and transonic maneuvering favor the Typhoon, while the Su 35 favors slow speeds.
“However, what you do not see is Thurst Vectoring making it really good” - some Russian Aerospace Forces boffin.
On a serious note, I seriously doubt that the Typhoon will outperform the Su-35 in War Thunder.
In real life, this fault would be immediately rectified with a dose of Meteor BVRAAM and ASRAAM Block 6.
Having defected to the dark side and played a little bit of Russian ground at mid-high tiers… my god they play easy mode lmao.
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Even in real life I have severe doubts an aircraft almost twice as heavy with no actually significant aerodynamic changes to facilitate better performance (no, thrust vectoring shouldn’t change nearly as much as it does in WT) could actually keep up with the typhoon.
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In actual gameplay, the Typhoon probably won’t reach SM2. The Typhoon loses speed significantly with just a little movement, effectively canceling out its own engine performance advantage.
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Oh we know they have done some crazy stuff to Typhoon high alt AOA control.
I think it’s better if we all just accept the game will never be realistic and will just become more ace combaty.
Gaijin decide how they want to balance the game
Did they change the FM of the EF in the last few patches? It feels so much more sluggish than it used to be. It feels like flying the F-15E with full A2A and 6x AGMs currently.
No idea bud, it doesn’t feel great
It definitely feels very different from before… I hate it when they change stuff/values/behavior without putting anything in the changelog (I couldn’t find anything about changes to the FM of the EF).
Also feels like the base thrust is too low while the afterburner boost thrust is too strong for a 50% increase.
The jet feels heavy even with the A2A loadout. I don’t know if the additional 2 120s are making that much difference in weight?
I also feel at higher speeds the jet doesn’t pull great.
Hey don’t talk trash about my beloved Ace Combat series.
At least in Ace Combat Typhoon flies like a dream Xd.
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