Im hoping we get the square display back. I prefer it a lot and you have info like missile ranging that isnt displayed on the circular one
Its not useless, as many would claim. One on EF’s specifically is a lot better than that of fulcrums and let alone floggers.
Two big use cases I find it really good at are:
- See contact dot at high alt → HMS IR lock it to get range and heading → make further informed decisions from there. Especially the range, because at 7km side-aspect 9M has decent chances of connecting. At 11km it does not. Usually you cant reliably eyeball either.
- Same thing but when someone is multipathing in my general direction. Gives accurate range + 9M gets slaved to target without setting off RWR. Those people more or less never look up, so that in fact is a big plus. Also spotting system works in way that targets below horizon get their markers at abysmal range, so IRST is super helpful in not losing them against terrain background.
And also dont let mig15’s in test drive mislead you, PIRATE has an all-aspect lock range of afterburning targets (which are all targets in ARB) at around 20km easily. So thats not a problem whatsoever.
You know… to think of it we can do literal zero-visibility CAS using brimstones and the AESA GMTI lol
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Eurofighter (AESA) - Should have 200 degree wide scan option + 180° scan for German EF (for now until better source mention 200°) / Internal Report
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Eurofighter (AESA) - CAPTOR-E Electronic scan sector too small
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Eurofighter (AESA) - CAPTOR-E scan speed should be much faster
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Ohh that sounds a lot better than I thought! I’ll definitely mess about with it then. (After 3 months when I finally unlock the new jet).
Edit: I think I’ve got a decent handle on the systems on this thing but perhaps an expert could do a deep dive on the systems and how to get the most of them
I’ll add something here! PIRATE is a 30km HMD mode functionally. Swap to IR HMD, lock target, swap to radar.
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I don’t suppose our fancy AMRAAMS can do LOAL can they? Because if so it would be suuuuuper sweet to have Pirate
They could for a few months because of a bug, and would be able to irl, but currently can’t
cheat code is to swap to radar lock, launch, and swap back to IR.
cheat code is to swap to radar lock, launch, and swap back to IR.
That works!? Does it work when firing from TWS?
? PIRATE has no TWS currently
No I mean. What I understand from your earlier posts is:
I am in IRST, I spot a target. Switch to Radar TWS, softlock target, launch, and then switch back to IRST.
But I now simply spot with the radar in TWS, softlock and launch
This shouldnt trigger RWR either untill the AMRAAM gets its own hardlock. So I dont think I understand what you meant before as to the advantage of having PIRATE.
Ah no what i meant before is you find a target with PIRATE, lock with PIRATE, and then with that lock you can quickly swap to radar (giving a fraction of a second lock warning), launch, and swap back to PIRATE
Using PIRATE to find targets over the 63x40 area and then independently tracking them with TWS works just as well (although less useful with the AESA)
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So my advantage with PIRATE would be to ONLY trigger their RWR momentarily when launching the AMRAAM? But doesnt the radar still guide it, so STILL triggering the RWR despite us having switched to IRST?
Anyway I am still mega excited for the new systems, especially AESA.
Nope, if you’re in IRST mode that’s it. Radar is off
The single biggest advantage of PIRATE is in ground rb though, where you can sneak up on people and hit them with 9Ms when they have literally no clue.
The HUD tint looking so much better now.
Looking great on Moggy too.
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Shame its only outside the aircraft and not where it actually matters…
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It’s a start I guess
Turns out ECRS Mk.1 also required a new power supply unit following changes to the ECRS Mk1 requirements.
Also, Hensoldt also claims “Extended missile guidance”
Which I believe is supposed to be “extended range missile guidance” but they seem to have forgotten to type “range” out, cuz I cant think of any other thing this could be referring too.