The DL is set up and works fine, the problem is the game may only allow one DL source, which is set to be the launchers (and their EO tracker) for some reason, and not the SR.
With BvvD’s recent statement about ARM’s we can only hope that we are provided with ALARM. Even on only the second most outborne pylon this would allow 2 ALARM as well as 12 Brimstone, so you would not feel the lack of FnF ATGMs as much. As arguably laser guidance is better for lethality, its just not feasible to defend SAM’s whilst having to guide a singular munition at a time.
It’s a real shame ALARM was retired so early, such a unique and really scarily effective missile. At the time it provided something even the latest variants of Brimstone are only just matching in range, but without the loiter time.
I suppose these days it doesn’t matter too much - not much ALARM can do that a brimstone 3 can’t.
Brimstone 3 cant deploy a parachute
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Does Alarm integrate with the airframe to detect and locate Radar emissions?
Could you use it to pinpoint SAMs and then kill them with Alarm/PW IV
I did say not much
SPEAR can just loiter though lol
I’m not sure. I just know that the minimum requirement was met and with average velocity being considered one of the most important requirements it seems likely they would want to try and get closer to the “desired” requirement.
However if the velocity is increased too much then you start getting into the realms of truly bonkers maximum rang performance.
I would not be too surprised if ASRAAAM reaches Mach 5 under some conditions. Meteor cruises at something like Mach 4.5 and MBDA state that ASRAAM experiences significantly more aerodynamic heating than Meteor.
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IIRC ARMs aren’t much use at telling you the range to the target, just the bearing.
Yeah indeed, now its irrelevant, but back then it was very effective. Brimstone still doesn’t match ALARM’s 93km+ range at 60km, nor does it match ALARM’s speed at M2 vs M1.3 ish.
Then there’s the Anti-radar seeker, which i believe is less important now with MMW probably being able to recognise radars, hell it may even have some sort of non-advertised anti-radar mode.
But a final very important part is the parachute, if the radar is turned off, ALARM uses IOG to fly to the last known position of a target, i believe it then lofts, and deploys a parachute, and lingers until the radar is turned back on, then it fires another secondary booster and drops the parachute, throwing itself from altitude straight at the radar.
SPEAR 3 reshapes this to a degree, though i’ve no idea if it loiters, and based on the lack of an anti-emission seeker for it, i’d assume MMW surpasses the need for that.
Typhoon is gunna be a roll of the dice, as we have an image of it mounted but docs confirming it wasnt intergrated.
But on the GR1/GR4 is gunna be awesome, providing they dont decide ALARM is “Too OP” and just give us AGM-88 placeholders
In the Q&A they said something about them being set-up in game for locating radars as much as engaging them or something, but I didnt really understand what they were on about
1:45 on the Q&A
I hope we get the same on the German Tornados with the ARMIGER, just HARM would suck but would be understandable
I don’t believe it was ever fully integrated, so I doubt it irl.
But i’d be surprised if the radar can’t do this on its own? Also you have the RWR for a reason, which can give estimated locations and engagement zones for SAM’s.
Although on the other hand of things I suspect brimstone/spear are actually superior against modern air defenses by pure numbers. Having 12 missiles coming at you is a hell of a lot more difficult to handle than 2-6, even if they are slower.
I think they’d be making a mistake to deny us ALARM, there’s other, more dubious missiles in-game. It’s simply an integrations issue. It fits on the pylon, its standard with tornado. I don’t think they’d be doing something advantageous to the game to deny it for EFT.
You’d get more ALARM’s on Tornado than EFT, but less Brimstones, so they may deem it a balancing measure just to give it to Tornado.
Not really as you multilayer SAM batteries. Patriots are setup with C-RAM
S-400/500 should have Pantsirs
Its difficult to compare given the era these weapons operated.
ALARM was 1990 to 2013/2014. So a Tornado GR1 firing off 9x ALARM is a lot of SEAD. Brimstone 1s werent until 2005 and meant more for dealing with Convoys. By the time Brimstone 2s entered service in 2015 and probably better suited for SEAD, the ALARM was already retired and a replacement wasnt thought about probably due to having Brimstone 2s
Yes but that’s partially my point. As SAMs get more modern, sheer numbers matter over anything else. Being able to send 12 missiles per aircraft to just saturate an IADS will matter much more than the individual missile’s performance.
Would there be less?
By my count, its 2 ALARM + 12 Brimstones on the Typhoon vs 4 ALARM + 18x Brimstones or 6x ALARM + 12 Brimstones on the GR4
I thought, there would be less, but perhaps not.