Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

again the FCS is making the EF fly smoothly

the same FCS that isnt modeled in war thunder

the same FCS that limits AoA and Gs

whats the point of the pilots ability to completly disable it if it is an unstable airframe

as it only limits elevator deflection

an unstable airframe is defined by its center of ligt being behind its center of gravity
if anything the canarards shift the ceneter of lift forward

yes in terms of War Thunder it is an issue that does need to be resolved…

yes and that issue is resolved by not pulling more than 25° of AoA like it does IRL

Structural limit is 29 degrees software is 20 degrees, gladly take reduced AOA for a stable fm

I’m so confused, what is the correlation between the two? As far as I know, the rocking of the airframe is an unintended consequence/bug and not intended in-game regardless if the aircraft IRL is unstable or not.

Here’s an accepted report on the matter, this is what luque is referring to I’m pretty sure:
[DEV] Rafale/EF2K Pitch Oscillation During Low Speed Maneuvers // Gaijin.net // Issues

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The EF also sometimes suddenly generates lift out of nowhere. If you’re flying low and a curve, it lifts the plane upwards getting you from 50 m height to over 150 m without any input or even facing upwards the moment you try to level out again.

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very good radar

okay come on that guy is basically notching you, it makes sense why a pd radar wasn’t detecting it

It was an Ar 234

tbf, the radar was pointing above the horizon, theres an argument to be made the MLC filter shouldve been turned off, but maybe it wasnt above the horizon enough. I do agree that expecting locks in the notch in WT is a lil’ silly though.

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I never have these problems in the Mig29G hmd

thats for sure, but I think you need to manually select whether or not you want to lock using pulse or pd. IRL it’s auto it must be, or it would attempt to lock using both IRST + radar. speaking of, radar+irst fusion would be nice (i mean being activated at the same time).
If a mig-29 can lock using both devices at once in the 80s, then surely a eurofighter can right?

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CAPTOR-M doesnt have a non-PD mode, and even with the MLC filter off, its still PD, it just gets rid of the filter for returns at the aircrafts speed, since it doesnt have to worry about the return from the ground. It automatically turns off in look-up situations both irl and in-game.

Thats why missiles become susceptible to chaff in look-up scenarios

wait, it doesn’t have lprf? that’s low k surprising, although IG lprf is useless in the modern day.
I want to say lprf is pulse, not 100% sure on that though

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Pulse and LPRF aren’t the same thing, just like HPRF and CW aren’t the same thing.

(or atleast, im pretty sure LPRF and pulse arent the same thing, could be wrong)

PD radars can vary their PRF for various pro’s and cons:
HPRF: measures speed well, range poorly (typically called PD HDN in-game)
LPRF: measures range well, speed poorly
MPRF: varies PRF between the 2 to get the data it needs most in the specific circumstance

As for the MLC filter, this is what the notch actually “looks” like
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When looking above the horizon, the MLC filter is turned off in look-up because there isn’t a spike in radar returns from the ground, so you don’t need to ignore that part of the radar returns.

I wouldn’t be surprised if modern radars could also ignore sudden spikes in MLC returns and adaptively turn the MLC filter back on in look-up scenarios, or ignore returns that dont have the the radar returns of the initial target, since that would indicate chaff, particularly in radars that have more advanced forms of NCTR.

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are you sure? from commends from stepanovich, they’re at least treated the same in wt (lprf being pulse, and cw being hprf). lprf meaning pulse, as the f-15a radar lacks a pulse mode. and then well cw meaning hprf.
IRL yes they’re different

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Not 100% sure on if pulse and LPRF are different, but I am sure the CAPTOR-M doesnt have a non-PD mode, and that turning off the MLC filter doesnt make it a pulse radar. Its still the same radar and same PRF, just isnt filtering the MLC portion of the returns.

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Yes. IRL it had that level of sensor fusion. So should have 200 target TWS from the PIRATE at the same time as the 20? Target TWS from the radar with 6? target P-Track.

Though that is of course assuming you are the Italian or British Typhoon with the PIRATE installed.

If nothing else. it is reasonable to assume that IRL. CAPTOR-M wasnt blind as a bat to aircraft that happened to be flying perpindicular to the Typhoon.