Nope.
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In what way?
For the verifiable stuff:
- The 120C-5/7 being functionally worse than the 120A/B despite being major upgrades in every way irl
- 120C-5 and 120C-7 being copy pastes of each other despite major upgrades to the guidance section between the two
- 120A/B known to have an underperforming seeker (and by extension, 120C-5/7 significantly underperforming) 1 2
- 120A/B underperforming kinematically against both cooperative and non-cooperative targets (and by extension, 120C-5/7) 1 2
- No reduced smoke motor (problem for many fox 3’s in-game though, so not really an AMRAAM specific problem)
For non-explicitly stated, but either logical conclusions or usually stated points (take with grain of salt):
- All AMRAAMs share the same loft and energy management code despite every variant we have in-game having made improvements to the guidance section (almost guaranteed the loft and energy management profiles were optimized between variants)
- 120C-5/7 have inferior HOBS capabilities despite it being commonly stated that some of the improvements to the hardware/software of the guidance and control sections were explicitly made to improve HOBS capabilities despite the clipped wings.
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That dosent necessary means that it is able to pull more Gs tho
It could be a specially programmed manouver it pulls with IOG to achieve that
I think seeker improvements can also be thrown in here
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I never specifically said it could pull more G’s, I said its commonly stated it has superior HOBS capabilities. That being said, smaller wings ALSO doesn’t mean that it cant pull more G’s. The smaller wings does mean that for the same input, a smaller force is applied, but improvements to the control section, such as stronger/faster/more accurate servo motors could allow the missile access to different inputs. This would lead to higher G’s being pulled. Changes to the PID controller could also improve the performance against HOBS or short ranged targets as well. Fin size isn’t everything in aerodynamic control.
Was sorta mentioned in verifiable stuff section, its outright known the 120C’s have improved/entirely new seekers, we just don’t have explicitly stated values for them.
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to be fair i assume it hasnt been looked at because the bug report manager requested the og reporter to redo the test and no one did
Ah, Yeah, you are right. I missed that
Let alone just a reduced guidance delay would help a lot in WVR, which is one of the main upgrades I always heard about here on the forums, which we dont have (i’ve heard it might even be as low as no guidance delay off the rails)
You’ll have to ask Flame. He may have done the testing and forwarded it onto Gunjob via a DM. Just because its not in that bug report thread, doesnt mean it wasnt done
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from the tornado manual we can see that it has around a 0.6 second delay. unsure if it would apply to other aircraft, but that’s where the current delay is modeled from
For Bs or C5s?
unconfirmed, can be either or. flame said likely 120b
Spoiler
this is where the delay is from
So, it could very well be then that the C5 does have a reduced guidance delay
It was re-reported and passed as a suggestion, I just grabbed the wrong bug report
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2KiennatgLHF
So its been accepted for a year or more now without being fixed
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Does anybody knows why it’s so hard to lock helicopters with targeting pod? Like I’m able to do it only from 3-2km at this point. That wasn’t a thing… Why?
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yeah but that’s from a year ago, the bug reporting manager asked for him to re report 4 months ago, although that report does seem to indeed use the same data tho
I guess, idk why the bug report manager is asking that if the issue hasn’t been marked as solved or closed, the issue is definitely still present.
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if anyone wants to i can help test it right now