Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

[FlyingOstridge]

It got GPS guidance?

[luque13]

Yep GNSS added on the dev

[Morvran]

@luque13

Brimstone 2 does it have reduced IOG drift

Brimstone 1s should have virtually no drift, with Brimstone 3s getting upgrades to its INS

But yeah, SAL brismtone 1 vs IRIS-T SLM and Spyder doesnt sound fun

[ShOt_MaCkEr]

It should’ve hit a random house instead…
Unplayable…

[luque13]

Fun for me as wont be playing top tier with this joke of an update

[Morvran]

Worth a Try

Eurofighter Typhoon - Any bug fixes this major?

I just wanted to create a quick thread reminding the Devs that the Typhoon does still exist. This is the second major update since the Typhoon’s introduction and we still have a whole host of major issues that havent been even looked at yet. Let alone the fact that the Rafale and F-15E are both getting some notable buffs this major update which leaves the Typhoon even further outclassed in both BVR (vs the F-15E) and WVR (vs the Rafale) and that is just A2A, The introduction of new long ranged…

[MythicPi]

Looks like the devs do have time for EFT bugs! Theyve been hard at work increasing the weight of the BK-27 from 100kg to 102kg!

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Still refuse to replace the worthless practice rounds in all the belts with the PELE-T rounds in the Gripens BK-27. Gripen also seems to be unaffected by the change, cuz I guess the devs havent figured out the Akan M/85 and BK-27 are the same gun yet?

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No word on any other bug fixes atm tho. The devs have already put a lot of effort into this MASSIVE change to the EFT, so they’re off to more important things like buffing the MICA again now.

[luque13]

Yes practise rounds in anything other than the default belt are a crime.

Good to see the devs are working hard…

[MythicPi]

Practice rounds in the default belt are also a crime. Theyre wortless and hit for almost no damage.

Out of the 150 rounds the EFT carries, 37 are practice rounds in all but the stealth belts, which effectively means the EFT only has 113 rounds for its gun unless you use stealth belts.

[luque13]

Arguments I have seen is the practise round clears any fouling of the gun. But I dont think modern cannons need them

[MythicPi]

The Gripens Akan m/85 uses the PELE-T round instead of the practice tracer shell for the same “purpose” in-game, which gives it significantly more damage.

PELE-T is an insentitive munition meant to provide similar on hit effects vs semi-soft/soft targets like a jet as an HE shell while not having the risk of detonating in the barrel.

So not only is that not an actual excuse for gaijin to use, they already have the correct round on the same gun in-game. They just refuse to give anyone but the gripens PELE-T for some bizarre reason.

[Gunjob]

@MythicPi

PELE-T

If I remember correctly PELE-T only functions as APHE anyway, its not measurably different from the APHE fired from the BK27’s. Might be talking out my arse here but I remember looking over the PELE-T’s when they came in.

edit: yes its just APHE with another name.

[kitsune_qq]

are stats same? Gripen’s 27mm mostly makes enemy at least non-combat, but on EFT/tornado it just… sucks

[MythicPi]

Yes but the issue isnt the missing PELE-T, its the fact the all BK-27 armed jets use Practice-tracer rounds instead of the PELE-T one.

So instead of the default belt being
PELE-T/APHE/APHE/APHE (like on the gripen)
its
PT/APHE/APHE/APHE (everyone else)

Every other BK-27 user is effectively working with 3/4 ammunition unless they load stealth belts, as there are PT rounds in all but the tracer belts.

Here's a perfect illustration of the difference:

PT round (not a kill, barely any damage):

PELE-T round (control surface kill, significant structural damage):

[Gunjob]

Yeah PELE-T and BK27 APHE, the only difference is the white tracer.

[Gunjob]

Typically the only belt the FGR.4 should use in the air to air role is a full belt of DM21 ‘Warshot’ which is pure HE with a PD fuze as per the Tornado F.3 in late service.

[MythicPi]

Any bug reports for that? Cuz atm almost the entirety of every belt is AP of some kind, with every 4th round being a nerf dart

[Gunjob]

We have one for the Tornado F.3 but not for the Typhoon, mainly because I don’t have a direct source for the belts in use. I can infer it from what Tornado F.3 was using and its given role and the gun system being the same. But not enough for a report.

I suppose I could FOI to see what rounds are “in service”. Though I suspect they will tell me its DM18/28 PT and DM21 HEPD. I’ll have to get back to you.

[Inverse_Hair_Law]

Will gaijin really only accept direct sources for vehicles that are still in service? Surely documents like that for Typhoon might not be available until after it retires?

[Gunjob]

No we accept secondary materials;

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