Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

MBDA confirm that the gimbal limit for ASRAAM’s seeker is +/-90°

For close-in combat the aircraft sensors can give target positional data to the missile beyond the seeker off-boresight limits of +/- 90 degrees.

The design requirement for ASRAAM states the seeker must be able to slew to the maximum OBC (Off Boresight Capability) angle in less than 1.0 seconds, with 0.5 seconds being desirable. So that puts the track rate at 90+°/s if the requirement is met.

By comparison the MICA IR seeker datasheet puts the track rate at “higher than 30°/s”, but realistically I expect Gaijin will only give it 30°/s as that’s the best information available (we’ve all seen bug reports turned down because “you need to provide exact values, or specify how much greater than”).
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#RIP Leopard 2A7V Gearbox

Ty for the accurate info/sources :)

I wouldn’t be surprised if all got ASRAAM and IRIS-T (see Brimstones)

Luckly we dont talk about GBU-48 )))))

Germany is at least in the process of acquiring Brimstones (and brimstone 1s are just a placeholder for the later brimstones they should all have), the one that somewhat annoyed me more was Paveway IV. That should be a Britain and Saudi Exclusive.

But im hoping we get some uniqueness in terms of A2A fit.

Symmetrical battles are boring

i mean, the LWS and the PIRATE is still a thing.

Then there is possible HOSBO as well and AMK kit.
Making them capabilities shared as much as possible will make sure every nation gets those capabilities.
Else it ends with only germany getting AMK.
Since thats an aircraft feature like the LWS and Pirate

I guess it’s because only PW4 can use the dual racks, so it would be quite limiting for Germany / Italy to have only laser JDAM instead.

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I’m still mad about that one. That’s just gaijin being deliberately lazy/stupid/malicious.

With the leopard 2A7V’s GB being stated to be geared to “match the leopard 2A4” acceleration, they dont actually need gear ratios, those can be calculated from the difference in weight and difference in acceleration had the 2A7V’s GB remained unchanged. They just wanted something to justify nerfing it.

They didn’t need “exact gear ratios” to nerf its top speed, but somehow they need it to buff its acceleration🙄

I would be. Brimstone “fills” a gap in performance the EFT’s would otherwise have in-game, IRIS-T vs ASRAAM does not.

As much as I’d like to have the option to pick and mix my SRAAM loadout on the typhoon (if i ever bothered playing it again), I doubt gaijin will go through with it. Italian one might get both, but I fully expect the British ones to get only ASRAAM, the German EFT to only get a horrifically broken and barely functional IRIS-T, and gaijin to call it a day and a job well done screwing the Germans again.

Perhaps for now, at least with Brimstones so heavily nerfed, but in the future (hopefully near future) Brimstones will become the main weapon for the Typhoon and not the PW4, at which point the difference is relatively minor.

Though its annoying we dont get ePaveways IIs or GBU-48s as a placeholder though

Yeah the lack of EPW2 is really odd. Gaijin made a cool 3D model for it and then never used it.

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My prediction of what IRIS-T will look like:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggF9Yh2dz8

Highly doubt Germany will get AMK, seeing as its in the same category as PIRATE; “tested but never used”.

There’s easily better claim to PIRATE on German EFT’s than AMK as well, seeing as AMK is a major airframe modification, while PIRATE is a drop in component Germany fully retains the right and ability to mount to any of their EFT’s if they wanted to.

Spoiler

(Not saying the German EFT should have PIRATE btw for those individuals who arent part of this convo and have poor reading comprehension skills)

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Especially on something like the Gr7 which has no GPS altnerative.

Didnt blow up the launch aircraft, so you’re already expecting more than I am lol

Haha, yeah, now that would be funny. Or a teammate because of LOAL :D

IRIS-T and ASRAAM and probably AIM-9X should have an advantage in not murdering teammates as commonly if/when LOAL is implemented on IIR missiles as all are capable of 90deg pre-launch gimbal limits, allowing you much more real estate in LOBL capabilities compared to MICA IR and R-73/74. Not too sure about the Chinese/Japanese missiles, but I assume they also have a seeker with actual competitive seeker gimbal limits as well.

I’m just expecting a mix of gaijins spotty TVC implementation and abject hatred for germany to shine through and make the IRIS-T borderline unusable. Would not be surprised if they pulled something like with the F-4F early and made ONLY the german IRIS-T basically unusable as well (for those who aren’t aware, for a few months(iirc) after the F-4F early was added, it had a pre-launch G-overload of 4G for its 9J’s, which made it nearly impossible to use them without flying in a near perfectly straight line, and made it effectively impossible to lead targets with them as well.)

hopefully*

I hope, it will perform like the AA.20 with Auto-aim (In case you are aware of which I mean)

There are a few photos of DA.2 fitted with a strange IRIS-T prototype:

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