Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

Yep, they might plan to trial it with and without as well and simply havent made up their minds yet.

And you never know, we might get the Spear-3.1 in the future to add IIR if it doesnt.

either way, gunna be interesting over the next few months to see what else is revealed now theyve begun active testing

Tri seeker could refer to GPS, LASER, and MMW

I’ve even seen INS counted as a mode sometimes, but I doubt it for the SPEAR 3

It doesnt say Tri-mode. Only multi-mode and how its worded, that doesnt seem to include the GPS

Spear-3 Datasheet

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So its unknown whether “Multi-mode” includes IIR or not. But I just think that some news articles have perhaps just assumed “Multi-mode” means it has IIR because the Brimstone with MMW + SAL are not listed as “multi-mode” or because others like the JAGM-MR have all 3 and is listed as “multi-mode”

JAGM-MR Datasheet

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But we’ll ultimately just have to wait and see, the fact they have changed from MMW+SAL to Multi-mode is interesting

That isn’t a JAGM-MR datasheet, they say multimode for just SAL and MMW

Could be the same for SPEAR 3

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My bad. Could be, we’ll see. It might be like AASM IR though. I have some suspicions regarding the GBU-53’s IR as well

Yeah it could be. Storm Shadow has proven its worth recently, so as a “mini-cruise missile” having that IIR terminal guidance could be a sought after feature for the Spear-3. Though that wouldnt benefit us in War Thunder

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Well, that’s why there’s a MMW seeker. We can only hope they change their minds by the time it’s added

Yeah… Fingers crossed the SPAA coming next major update are good enough (and numerous enough) to allow for Typhoon to finally start to get unnerfed. Even just Brimstone 2s limited to SAL would be a huge win

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I have my doubts on that point, particularly in the case of Germany/Sweden. Honestly, I think only the Chinese and Russians will have a reliably effective SAM system next update, which I guess is more than the current Russia only, but its not much of a fix…

We need more things to blow up things unlucky enough to be on the ground

Yeah… I too have my doubts, but there is still a bit of hopium left in the tanks

In my mind, best case scenario atm, VL MICA, CAMM, and Spyder AIO have roughly the vehicle lock range of the Kh-38MT, and have enough interceptors ready (8) to shoot down all 6 Kh-38MT/AASM IR.

Problem is, the Kh-38MT can still be fired from beyond their range. It degrades its capability vs moving targets, but these SAM’s need to be stationary to fire, so it doesn’t actually matter.

At best, I think the SAM’s will punish ppl that dont respect their range, helicopters, and jets with ordinance below their max range (ie: everyone except the Russians and French). When faced with a Kh-38MT launch though, they’d either need to use 75% of their interceptors to stop a single planes salvo, or they’d need to get moving and hope they leave the Kh-38MT’s search cone before it locks them. And in the even they pack up and move while the missile was launched at a teammate, they’ve basically rendered themselves irrelevant.

I have also checked and the Kh-38MT’s seeker is more than capable of finding targets at 30km+, and the missile can easily hit a target when fired from below the contrail floor, so its actually possible the new SAM systems make the problem worse.

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Yeah, still not a great situation, but Id still take Skysabre over ADATS for fighting Su-30s

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Saw it before, masterpiece.

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if i catch a day or 3 day ban for it im completely fine
bro i laugh so hard that i almost fall of my chair
absolute masterpiece

Its got the exact same seeker from Brimstone DMS/2/3, you can see visually, they are identical;

SPEAR-3


Brimstone DMS

We aint doing IIR through the tiny aperture of the laser seeker haha. You don’t need IIR with mmW @ 94Ghz because its already in the “near visual” band, and can produce imagery.

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So, it something like SAR? Or it is different?

Yeah it does SAR for its ATR.