I said that because of the AMK kit, i didnt even mention the IRIS-T anywhere in that post
The Iris-T is capable of shoulder launching as well yeah
Both are able to do. The difference is how they make it. ASRAAM by turning tail fins hard and using the way its body is made to make the turn sharp, irist by vectoring. Both are LOAL, DL and are able to be guided using data from another sensor (data sharing network)
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So is tihis possible or nah?
IIRC the Javelin has two screens one is for radar and one looks like an IRST screen but I don’t think it had one.
But yes we should be able to do something as the IRST is fixed but the radar, gimbal-mounted so you could look off to the side with the radar, whilst having up to a 150km range on the IRST facing forwards.
the UK EF will be the only one in game with laser warning receivers.
Will it?
I didn’t realise, that will come in very handy against soviet/French and I think even American IRST’s.
AFAIK the PIRATE is the only IRST system that does not use a laser rangefinder.
I found that pirate has its own screen that provides data to the cockpit
So it should be possible
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yeah the british and saudi ones have it fitted and the spanish ones have the panels for it but not the warners themselves. all eurofighters are ofc capable of carrying them and have the necessary wiring.
thats just FLIR lol. its likely possible to do the same with a TPOD
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Yes, but pirate drops its feed on it, so in my point i was talking, it has different screen than a radar, so both should be usable at the same time
IRIS-T’s missile intercept capability and integration in the Praetorian DASS system would in theory allow it to just shoot down the ASRAAM’s as the aircrafts ranges are closing.
I don’t think the fight would be as one sided as you think, granted I also don’t think it would be much more than a simple draw into a guns only merge or a mutual kill assuming equal skill by both pilots. That’s also assuming the German Typhoon doesn’t use the IRIS-T to shoot down Meteors during the BVR stage, allowing it to be more aggressive and try to win the fight before even getting into ASRAAM range.
Ok that one makes envious
I do not want to go to deep into this, but UK EF can carry max 6 ASRAAM and 4 AMRAAM/METEOR. So yea, it will be hard to intercept all this.
odd argument when both aircraft can carry the same amount of missiles…
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i have not seen anything about german EF carrying 6 irist. I have seen max 4. If it can then it is my mistake
is there a picture of the British one carrying 6 asraams?
thats not what i asked for…
also
spanish EF but with double rail and IRIS-T…
it also doesnt really matter. I’ve said it before, the eurofighters are wired up the same and have the necessary wiring and mechanical interfaces to carry missiles on every single one of the wing pylons.
They’re both able to carry the same missile loads, hence why I said it would likely be a draw into a guns only merge or a mutual kill.
If both carry the same number of Meteors and both carry the same number of SRIRAAM’s, and the German Typhoon is able to reliably intercept incoming missiles with the IRIS-T, theres no reason to think either aircraft has a particularly notable advantage.
Realistically, as I mentionned before, the German Typhoon likely has the advantage during the BVR stage where Meteors are being fired, as it can choose to use IRIS-T’s to intercept said meteor’s to remain more offensive, or can hold on to meteors and fire them at closer ranges, increasing their pK%.
When it comes to the ASRAAM range, the British Eurofighter would have the advantage, as it could outrange the IRIS-T, assuming the German Eurofighter didn’t use them to be more aggressive during the meteor slinging phase and the brit didn’t die to a more aggressive german typhoon launching Meteors at shorter ranges with higher pK%'s, and force the german defensive.
So in effect, the discussion as to which aircraft wins just comes down to how the BVR phase played out, before the ASRAAM even came into use.
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If the german used IRIS-T to augment its position during the BVR stage of the fight, it will either shoot down the brit before they get into ASRAAM range, or fail to do so and be shot down by an ASRAAM after having used up its IRIS-T
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If the german didnt use IRIS-T to improve its chance during the BVR stage (or if were ignoring the meteor slinging stage entirely) the german will be on the defensive as it will be forced to spend its missiles defending against the ASRAAM.
If we consider it a purely ASRAAM vs IRIS-T fight, the british Typhoon has the advantage sure, but i’d bet on a draw into a guns only merge (IRIS-T intercepts all ASRAAM) or a mutual kill (last IRIS-T and last ASRAAM are both fired within range at the enemy aircraft) rather than “ASRAAM has more range so it wins automatically!!!”
I do not have a picture, but i gave this as a proof.
Have not seen this. Now i know.