1.5m^2 is too high?
Mig has radar cross section of hummingbird, komrad.
He is referring to EFT, so that doesnt really work.
Yes, again terrible. Especially when its at low altitudes like the mig 29.
But again, its a radar that IOC in the mid 80s compared to what uk had at the time. Phantoms(american) or ADVs
yes but as i said, it might be because that document is rather old and might have not taken into account the materials of the airframe…
Possible; but 1.5 is a pretty small RCS for the time anyway so it could be accurate.
Sorry. NOO1 can detect bee at 1000 miles komrad.
true ig
just makes it harder to draw any conclusions about the production Eurofighters with those numbers
Form wiki:
The manufacturers carried out tests on the early Eurofighter prototypes to optimise the low observability characteristics of the aircraft from the early 1990s. Testing at Warton on the DA4 prototype measured the RCS of the aircraft and investigated the effects of a variety of RAM coatings and composites.
Given the age of this doc, these results are likely what came out of those tests.
I read about 1.5M² RCS for EF with 2 Iris-T and 4 Meteor in the Centerline slots
“One of the best jets in the game”, he didn’t say it was the best. Upon it’s addition, the Harrier Gr.7 was the 2nd, maybe 3rd best top tier jet (behind F-14 and Mig-23 MLD), it had the most countermeasures in the game, awesome manoeuvrability (different from what we were used to), and was also the only top tier with AIM 9Ls, that was so difficult to flare. I can say it was the most fun I’ve ever had playing top tier Britain, even tho I also got the FGR.2 when it was one of the top dogs, on the update it recieved the Skyflash. Britain had its shine days, but damn, the ADV came too late, just like the Lightning.
(Actually the F-104S ASA also had 9Ls at top tier)
That’s a very low bar.
If the game was balanced well then vehicles wouldn’t be power-crept into nothingness constantly. I suppose it’s hard to keep selling fresh premiums if the old ones retain their value though.
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To be frank with you, I regarded and have regarded the Harrier GR7 as the best CAS until this recent patch, so it was the best CAS for 9 months straight, and it stands to get even better with the planned MAWS for it.
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It sounds high because the RCS is at 50% of detection. The game uses something like 80 or 90% chance of detection so the bar is higher, which would make the EF-2000’s RCS below the 1.5m^2 mark.
Read the manual again, the radar detection given is at 50% chance of detection. So in-game, it should probably be about 0.5m^2 or something like that.
true.
it also says with a single look. although that might make it worse lol
Lets stay on topic please.
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Based on Austrian MOD documents the All-Aspect range of the PIRATE IRST/FLIR is 80km, with a maximum of 150 km in the rear aspect. They cite the range as 50-80km, with a potential for up to 150 km to be achieved in optimal weather conditions, we know that supersonic afterburning aircraft in rear-aspect create the highest possible IR signature, therefore 150 km is the rear aspect figure and 80km is the All-Aspect figure. The figure of 40-50km is instead for target identification which the Eurofighter incorporates to tell the pilot the aircraft type and (in conjunction with radar and the wider MAWS system) weapons loadout. Also it’s important to note that unlike Soviet and French FLIR/IRST it does not use a laser rangefinder for ranging and therefore should not alert an LWS MAWS system.
Source: https://www.bmlv.gv.at/truppendienst/ausgaben/artikel.php?id=807
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Is someone going to re-post the DA2/F.2 suggestion from the old forum here?
That would almost certainly be lowballing its actual performance significantly, I have a feeling its referring to tracking range, or at least where Visual Identification of the target could be resolved, not at which the detection of emissions occurs.
Since as per outsider’s view of the AWG-9 even the basic AN/ALR-23 IRSTS mounted on the F-14 would outperform it and I doubt that is the case considering that the ALR-23 is very basic, and not much of an improvement on the AN/AAA-4 & AN/AAS-15( equipt by various USAF / USN interceptors).
Let alone the more advanced AN/AXX-1 TCS. Which we also happen to have a specification document for here, and considering its using more advanced, modern detectors and electronics the performance should be improved in comparison.
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I doubt European thermals are being “lowballed”. The American stuff in the 70s and 80s was well ahead of their time. In my experience, American FLIR still out-performs most other countries in service.
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