Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 1)

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The last changes which we had on the dev

Last changes we saw on Dev

2.42.0.23 → 2.42.0.26 (2024-12-12)

Aircraft FM changes: (by prae)

  • Eurofighter [DEU], F-2000A, Typhoon F.G.R. Mk. 4:
    • wing adjustments:
      • arm adjusted: [0.35, 0.2, 2.5] to [0.33, 0.2, 2.5]
      • 0% flap deployment induced drag Mach multiplier curve adjustments
        • Mach number of coefficient max from 0.6 to 0.65
        • multiplier max from 0.81 to 0.7
        • multiplier linear coefficient from 0.05 to 0.4
          • induced drag multiplier decrease will now peak at M0.65 instead of M0.6 to a greater degree and increase more afterwards, resulting in less induced drag until around M0.9 resulting in higher overall instantaneous and sustained turn (Comparison)
    • fuselage zero-lift drag coefficient Mach multiplier curve adjustments
      • multiplier max from 2.1 to 2.0
      • multiplier linear coefficient from 0.25 to -0.01
      • multiplier limit from 10.0 to 0.5
        • zero-lift drag coefficient will now peak at a lower point and decrease after the curve, enabling higher top speeds (Comparison)
    • thrust adjustments
      • at sea level
        • general decrease in afterburning thrust ranging from 300-2600 kgf from 600 km/h TAS (Comparison)
        • decrease in military power (100%) thrust ranging from 300-800 kgf from 1200 km/h TAS (Comparison)
      • at 3000 m
        • decrease in afterburning thrust ranging from 400-700 kgf from 800 km/h TAS (Comparison)
      • at 6000 m
        • increase in afterburning thrust of about 1000 kgf at 1200-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
        • increase in military power (100%) thrust ranging from 100-350 kgf at 1000-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
      • at 9000 m
        • increase in afterburning thrust ranging from 100-700 kgf at 1000-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
        • increase in military power (100%) thrust ranging of about 300 kgf at 1000-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
      • at 12000 m
        • increase in afterburning thrust ranging from 200-500 kgf at 800-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
        • increase in military power (100%) thrust ranging from 100-300 kgf at 800-2000 km/h TAS (Comparison)
    • empty mass decreased from 11700 kg to 11300 kg

Aircraft DM changes:

  • Eurofighter [DEU], F-2000A, Typhoon F.G.R. Mk. 4:
    • crew model: USA 1977-1991 → USA 1985-2011 JHMCS
    • the wings and tail didn’t break off where they were intended to (so more or less remained), fixed
      Aircraft weapon changes:
  • Eurofighter [DEU], F-2000A, Typhoon F.G.R. Mk. 4, Rafale C (F3R): Split large countermeasures: fired in pairs → single-file
    Statcard and X-Ray changes:
  • Eurofighter [DEU], F-2000A, Typhoon F.G.R. Mk. 4: right wing fuel tank is now marked as self-sealing in X-Ray
    BR changes:
  • Maximum BR: 13.7 → 14.0
  • Air: F-15E, Eurofighter [DEU], Typhoon F.G.R. Mk. 4, F-2000A, Rafale C (F3R), F-15I Ra’am: 13.7 → 14.0
  • Typhoon HUD text changes:
    - 500 lbs Paveway IV: “PW IV” → “GBU”
    - 500 lbs GBU-48(V)1/B: “GBU48” → “GBU”
    - 500 lbs GBU-54(V)1/B: “GBU54” → “GBU”
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Yesterday I noticed that when flying at low speed and at a high angle of attack, the canards drop down, outside the turn. Is this intended or is this an animation glitch?

2882

Engine oil, pilot, and ammo are all added to the empty weight in game, not included in it.

And the 11,000 kg figure for Eurofighter is Basic Mass Empty, which IIRC includes hydraulic oil and unusable fuel.

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2883

that is exactly what i thought so it should be 11.000 can someone report this ?

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At the time it was 11.700 kg on the dev server it was reported that it should be instead 11.000 kg with linked sources which all said 11.000 kg. But the devs in their almighty wisdom decided to set it to 11.300 kg with no apparent basis for that decision and closed the report as “solved”.

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2885

It is readily apparent why

2886

It obviously wasnt readily apparent for everyone, why don’t you just say instead of making people guess

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2887

Intended I’d guess, they do the same irl, its to countersteer and stabilise the turn. Sort of like drifting

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we tried ig

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If you implicate to point at your comment about oil, pilot, ammo, etc. I have news for you:

Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE Treaty) of November 1990:
Empty weight means the weight of a vehicle excluding the weight of ammunition, fuel, oil and lubricants, removable reactive armour, spare parts, tools and accessories, removable snorkelling equipment, crew and their personal equipment.

Source: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/f/1/14089.pdf

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How is this related to game’s “EmptyMass” code line?

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This issue is brought up about the empty weight of every fighter coming to the game for the last 3 years. Welcome to history on repeat.

So… Exactly what I said?

Oil and lubricants includes the hydraulic systems and engine oils.

2892

is it going to get double racked pylons for fox 3s or not ?

and one random question the tornado F3 or the F3 late have top 3 radar in the game for locking and finding targets with ez, and amazing SRC speed, is the Captor better at doing that ? or do we have to wait for the Captor E

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Probably not but we’ll have to wait and see.

As for radar, In theory yes, based upon what I’ve read about what it can do, I would assume it would have a scan speed similar to fox hunter or the PESA radar on the Su-34. On the dev it was a placeholder, so very interested to see the changes they make. It should be a lot better than fox hunter in theory

The issue is the lack of concrete sources.

Captor-M is widely considered the best mechanical radar in the world and equal to many PESA radars

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You seem to be implying that the empty weight in game being 300 kg too high is because of it including the:

Engine oil, hydraulic fluid, pilot, ammo, etc

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That is not a valid explanation because Engine oil, pilot, and ammo all have their own masses in game and are added the empty mass, not included in it.

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2895

Going to be another fun update of F15E being top dog still.

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2896

Not really?

Typhoon easily matches or surpasses the F-15Es performance with the exception of 6 AMRAAM Vs 8

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I didn’t have to wait long. The extra black on the back looks infinitely matte and flat, but it should be glossy. I hope this is due to the not-so-high graphics settings…

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In your dreams perhaps. I do not believe for a second that the typhoon will not be gimped for release or shortly thereafter.

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Unlike the Gripen. The national archives has information on the typhoon. Flame and Gunjob are geared for war. I would like to see them try.

The only thing in concerned about is the F-15E getting AIM-120C5s sooner rather than later