Thanks :)
I have not seen these, I appreciate you sharing this. I knew there was the twin IR pylon we have observed on Spanish Typhoons and also mentioned here in this document from @Flame2512
But this seems to showcase dual missile pylons for L/MRAAM’s which I believe is new in addition to what looks like some sorta other rail attached to the pylon (hopefully BOL)?
Thanks for sharing mate this is cool.
Ah don’t worry, I was ironic in the first part of the message. Btw I alredy saw the various documents about the twin IR pilons, now we have to hope to see the double bvraam pilons in future. Maiby they will be avaible with the T4/T5 or with the new P4EB standard.
Larger drop tanks too?
yeah apparently
these are IR missiles, the double pilon here shows bvraam
It’s using the ACMA Multi-Function Rail Launcher though, so should be able to equip AIM9-L, ASRAAM, AMRAAM and IRIS-T
The pylon used is the brimstone pylon
the whole thing is cursed as fuck
its
pylon → rail → pylon (the brimstone multi function launcher) → rail → amraam
i hope these manufacturers figure out how to model their own stuff correctly at some point
also AFAIK so far the AGML is only for air to ground munitions
Air-to-ground rail launchers (eaton.com)
Covers Hawk Vs Gripen and compared to Typhoon as well.
All the Typhoon had to do was put its lift vector on and pull and there was zero thought
The fact somebody is comparing the Hawk, primarily a training aircraft to a gripen makes me laugh
ikr its like comparing the alpha jet to an F16
Woah, don’t disrespect the hawk with a comparison to the alpha jet
My takeaway would be that the Gripen while heavy is somewhat even until the Gripen is on internal fuel then the Hawk is dead. And with Typhoon the Hawk is always dead. Considering the Hawk can instant turn at around 22deg/s peak its getting mullered by the EFT which is alot higher than than 22deg/s believe me haha.
I was under the impression the Hawk had rather… modest performance characteristics, perhaps I was mistaken.
22deg/s instant and sustains at 14deg/s its good not amazing. Really only good below 5000/ft
Thanks, pretty modest then but workable for sure and they come with nice kit.
You might not know off of the top of your head but how does that compare to other similar aircraft.
(Gina, Gnat, Sabre, Alphajet etc?).
Bit better than an F.3 (if the F.3 was performing correctly). But I don’t have charts to hand for those examples. The Hawk suffers from the engine being pretty poor. Thats why instant is pretty respectable but sustained starts dropping off hard as you leave SL.
Slap an after burner on the engine
Chuck an EJ-200 in there. I want supersonic Hawk for the UK’s next Trainer-Light Attacker.
