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bc the indians dont use the asraam on the rafale

they use it on the su30

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ehh i dont know anymore. to much of a mishmash country

maybe they integrated the ASRAAM on the rafale, but then there are no documents or pictures confirming it, so for the sake of this argument they didnt

What Indian double rails you speak of?

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Typically being the keyword here. Last year’s was quite large and I think the amount of stuff added was one of the reason the December update was « late » (compared to usual schedule), as they needed to crunch more to get even more new models.

I think October would be on the of best update to introduce AESA radars to currently available planes (hopefully not through a completely new research for just a radar and new skin), as it would require less new models and give more time for devs to work on December update which is usually the hype update of the year with the June one

It was only really the DX12/Ray Tracing that caused it to be late.

Im personally guessing ARM maybe this update. SEAD would be about the right size

Following Smin messages for the previous major updates, I’m not sure IIR missiles for planes are coming this year. I would personally put my bets on June 2026 at the earliest, maybe after 5th gen aircraft’s even.

it wasnt really the ammount of content but rather gaijin having issues with the ray tracing implementation

the planes added (besides the F-117) werent really that unique and more or less only variations of already existing airframes or with slightly different 3D models that are building of already existing stuff

Then it would be massively late. They are a year overdue already

Yep. My guess is that they might want to powercreep 5th gen for a while before introducing IIR to everyone as counterbalance, as they probably will be the most effective weapons against stealth vehicles.
But as DS said, whether 5th gen or IIR missiles come, they’ll first introduce more MAW, AESA and maybe EW before introducing IIR, hence why I think next June at best

i personally wouldnt be suprised, i could also imagine gaijin paying homage to ‘Air Supiriority’ by adding the advanced versions of the planes added back then, so F-15EX, Su-35 and Gripen E

I would imagine gaijin adding 5th gens in the summer update and they could call it ‘Invisible’ or something like that, with next gen IR missiles at the latest being added in march

sorry i had to do it

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The issue being the replacement for the AIM-9M is almost always ridiculous. 9X would be the worst option you could have and still very potent. R-74 in all variants has the potential to be a menace though practical range =/= marketed range

lmao not really. no r-74 has iir seekerhead first of all, and only the latest r-74m2 is really good with loal, datalink, 360 engagement etc (still no iir seekerhead). smin himself has stated that r-74m (rvv-md) is only python 4 level. forget about standard r-74.
Also only iir seekerhead for r-73 was an upgrade for r-73 not r74, and it wasn’t actually mass produced

Huh, fair enough then, I thought it was IIR.

I thought a requirement of 5th gen IR’s was to be IIR, hence why PY-4 wouldn’t be?

in game all iir is modeled as gatewidth+seekershutoff, so it doesnt really matter for wt purposes. and irl r74m2 still gets most the modern features of iir missiles without actually getting an iir seekerhead, and it’s cheaper to not produce an iir seekerhead.
They can still get an iir r-73 (not actually used), but it will probably be one of the worst top tier iir missiles.

r-74m2

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iir seekerhead for r-73

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9X and IRIS-T would basically be the two worst options in max range and even from ground launch they have ranges similar to air launched AIM9s. I do also think that only adding IIR to a few nations would be stupid. Even more than MICA EM as of now. They would turn better, go further and be basically unflarable compared to any other air launched missiles.

and this is even before micas get their turn rate buffed… so mica ir is straight up going to be best missile in game

Its super sekrit soviet technology. So its clearly superior to IIR

Indeed, but both offer range improvements IRIS-T particularly so (though perhaps not when manoeuvring), and the manoeuvrability improvements cannot be understated even with MICA’s compared to 9M’s, let alone smaller, lighter missiles with higher TVC deflection angles which aren’t making quite the same tradeoffs as MICA.

I think all would be incredibly potent I mean imagine a SRAAM with 5 times the range and twice the manoeuvrability that you also cannot flare…

To be honest i’m not even sure as these missiles are the real cancer.

Wouldn’t like to be one of those people without MAWS.