Considering that the Eurofighter has better turning capabilities across the board when compared to Rafale…would that also mean that Rafale is significantly underperforming? Are there any sources for STR and ITR for either aircraft?
The Rafale FM feels unfinished, it should be superior to EFT in ITR.
Otherwise, there’s really not much concrete information on exact ITR/STR that can be considered very credible.
Flame provided the requirements for the Eurofighter to be at least 20 deg/s sustained turn rate and didn’t specify the conditions in which that should be filled. Rafale data is harder to come by but I haven’t looked into it too heavily. What we know is that it underperforms according to a couple very specific datapoints and all pilots on either side said that the Rafale should have the advantages in certain areas that are very evidently untrue in-game regardless of whether or not FCS differences are considered.
Tornado isn’t 12.7 in GRB.
As I said earlier, Tornado could go down or 12.7s could go up to 13.3 or even higher.
I also never claimed Tornado was balanced and was perfect at it’s BR, stop inventing scenarios in your head please.
I think you should ask @Panther2995 that as he has first hand experience in using EFT with Brims. He can tell you the best how many missiles are needed on average for a kill.
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For starters, I do think that a close-coupled canard design like that on a Rafale, would yield more lift generation than a long-arm canard at high AOA.
Im talking with you right now…
Yeah you are and I’m telling you what I’m telling you.
Then answer my question, I show you the fact in the game what actually happened right now. Then give me proof your argument before that brims can kill 6 tank in the game right now.
Tornado GR4 is 12.3 in GRB. Does that mean it can get ASRAAM or Brimstone 3s to compensate for its ultra low A2A performance, or is it still soviet only that are allowed FnF AGMs?
Please read what I’m writing.
It could go down in BR as EFT is the main aircraft at 12.7 now.
So Tornado Gr1 to 10.7 with GBUs. Tornado Gr4 to 11.3 with Brimstones. Works for me
I won’t comment on their exact BRs, I’m just saying going down is a possibility for them.
Here… You told us before…
The Eurofighter in-game can sustain 22 degrees per second on 50% fuel. It can sustain 19.3 degrees per second on 100% fuel.
Why are the conditions not able to be specified? Or is this another instance of UK mains trying to safeguard their information because they don’t want anyone else to be able to scrutinize their claims?
The Rafale FM is most likely finished for all intents and purposes barring someone making a bug report and having a source.
The Eurofighter FM is overperforming in terms of angle of attack due to the limit being set at 29 AOA on SAS Damping. It is also likely overperforming in terms of bleed rates / specific excess power in sharp turns since this has been a common problem for Gaijin’s implementation of canard fighters.
What’s your point buddy ?
I’m really not sure about the Gripen. It has a very meh thrust-to-weight ratio and it retains energy better than any Eurocanard/Delta-canard ingame. I mean yeah, it has less drag, but it’s still pretty ridiculous.
There is the point buddy :3. You make the argument then avoid the argument without a fact. Now you blabbering…
ALL data that is publically available that has been found so far, was past to the devs by Gunjob and Flame. I suspect the outstanding areas of overperformance are issues pertaining to how the game cant handle unstable flight models / Canards and this results in overperformance. Typhoon is not alone in this matter. Multiple other aircraft are affected by it.
We will have to wait and see what Gaijin does in the future after the holidays but my personal hope is that they sort out the radar first, as it has one of the weakest at top tier. After that, then the FM can be polished both buffed and nerfed where appropriate. But it will always win in a WVR fight vs most other aircraft in game currently. So dont expect it to become a Tornado FM anytime soon
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