Why? Su-34 is way stronger than most other stikre aircraft. Why does the Su-34 get free hand-outs?
Yeah… Then did you ever see player got 6x kill with brimstone in grb??? While what I see rn KH38 and AASM can get 4-5 kill instantly after spawn then back to AF after launch all FnF missile just in 2 min.
As it has way worse A2A capabilities than the others. Things should be balanced as a whole package, not just by looking at a single metric.
I fire 2 Brim for one tank. One for light vehicles. For key units like Pantsir 3 to be sure.
Considering that KH’s always kill with one hit, there is - in fact - no numerical advantage in ordnance. Especially if you consider this GNSS like IOG of KH’s.
EF doesn’t deserve to be checkmated in GRB, while Maverick carriers and KH carriers do their thing. This laser lock is just not practical.
Were talking about GRB. This is irrelevant. Otherwise Tornados with their bus-like FM and just two weak AAMs need to get stellar anti ground ordnance.
I’d want Air to go to 13.7 in GRB as that would save loads of people that don’t have air themselves from CAS bullying.
I’m currently playing 11.3 Japan and it’s much better just because CAS isn’t spammed as hard.
Yeah, Russian CAS already strong at those BR. No wonder you tell that.
A2A is also important in GRB as you won’t be the only jet out there.
Tornado could lose some of it’s Brimstones and move down in BR as now EFT is in charge.
Same could be said for Su-25SM3, remove IRs and drop it in BR.
Then what that A2A capability doin after all air target eliminated? Wandering around? Watching teammate dying on the ground without giving air support?
You are able to help from air, what are you talking about ?
You mentioned like we dont need A2G. What we talking rn A2G capability. And you avoid my question did you ever see player got 6x kill with brimstone? While what I see KH38 and AASM got 4-6 kill instantly after spawned in 2 min. Im talking what actually happening, not base on ur logic or something that only happened on your mind right now.
Two similar competing aircraft are being added and held to different standards and you’re crying that someone is pointing it out.
The aircraft I have nerfed the most is US and Russian stuff
It is what it is, we’re on the English forum and the Englishmen can’t have their toy criticized.
You mean like how the Su-27SM is now overperforming and the Su-33/Su-34 are just… nuts… yeah… we’re working on that too. The difference is that the point was brought up, accepted, and everyone went about their day. No one sat here to try and refute the laws of physics in favor of their national pride.
You can’t talk vehicle’s balance without looking at both A2A and A2G capabilities together, as that is what makes the whole plane.
This is literally like base M1 crowd that demands M900 for their vehicle to be “on-par” with others without looking at all the positives vehicle has.
It has a worse A2A ability than a Tornado IDS?
Dman, didnt realise the Tornado IDS had a PESA radar and R-77s
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Okay I will keep asking the same question for you, “did you ever see player with brimstone got 6 kills base on your logic if each target need 2-3 Brimstone? Because what I see right now what happened was KH38 and AASM got 4-6 kill instantly after spawned in the game just in 2 min”.
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I’m looking at medium and high speed turn rates but the low speed and high AoA performance may still differ. This isn’t the thread to discuss the specificities though. Overperformance in one area does not mean it extends to all others - likewise with the Eurofighter.
The Eurofighter is underperforming in sustained turn rate, maximum overload capacity, acceleration, and top speed. The aircraft is also defying the laws of physics in stall characteristics well beyond anything else in the game. It is an outlier and any time I’ve pointed it out they turn into a disturbed hornets nest.
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Considering that the Eurofighter has better turning capabilities across the board when compared to Rafale…would that also mean that Rafale is significantly underperforming? Are there any sources for STR and ITR for either aircraft?
The Rafale FM feels unfinished, it should be superior to EFT in ITR.
Otherwise, there’s really not much concrete information on exact ITR/STR that can be considered very credible.
Flame provided the requirements for the Eurofighter to be at least 20 deg/s sustained turn rate and didn’t specify the conditions in which that should be filled. Rafale data is harder to come by but I haven’t looked into it too heavily. What we know is that it underperforms according to a couple very specific datapoints and all pilots on either side said that the Rafale should have the advantages in certain areas that are very evidently untrue in-game regardless of whether or not FCS differences are considered.
Tornado isn’t 12.7 in GRB.
As I said earlier, Tornado could go down or 12.7s could go up to 13.3 or even higher.
I also never claimed Tornado was balanced and was perfect at it’s BR, stop inventing scenarios in your head please.
I think you should ask @Panther2995 that as he has first hand experience in using EFT with Brims. He can tell you the best how many missiles are needed on average for a kill.
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